Suitable punishment #
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 21:33 GMT
Why not just take them behind the woodshed and shoot 'em? T'woud be more appropriate I suspect.
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 21:33 GMT
Why not just take them behind the woodshed and shoot 'em? T'woud be more appropriate I suspect.
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 21:54 GMT
What this amounts to is a tax on spyware not a penalty as they get to keep most of the money and requiring accounting for it and of course a sop to the whining customers. This is exceptionally bad precedent and will cause no end of problems in the future.
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 22:06 GMT
Shooting would be too quick. It would be more appropriate to stake them out on a fire-ant hill.
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 22:06 GMT
I can name 3 more companies that follow this exact model. Now I can name a 4th because this seems like a great deal. (I am getting into this biz!) I can afford a lot of lawyers for 3.2 million. Come download my screensaver of porn, and let me track all of your internet usage! Oh and enjoy my popups almost as much as my crappy screensaver!
Posted Monday 1st October 2007 22:27 GMT
They installed their spyware without asking; force them to visit every one of the 15 million machines and remove their crap. That'll learn em.
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 03:04 GMT
Any computer they personally use should render an extremely annoying popup every 30 seconds, stealing focus from whatever they're doing. And it should be slowed to approximately the speed of a P1-166MHz. Perhaps their TV should display popups as well--of whatever bothers them the most. The justiceware can be removed after 8 years or 15 million popups. Sounds fair.
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 04:05 GMT
I read about this over and over and over again, a company does something illegal, makes millions because of it, owes maybe 10% in fines.
So you break the law, rip people off, damage countless computers and IF you get busted you only get to keep most of the money you make.
Is this the way things work in every country or just the USA?
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 09:45 GMT
In theory, in the UK under the Proceeds of Crime Act the whole proceeds can be seized in addition to the fine.
In practice, we've just had a high profile case where a TV company was fined a measly £250K for a premium rate phone scam that is estimated to have cost callers £2M.
The claim was that they could only impose the statututory 250K maximum fine, but they conveniently "forgot" to use the Proceeds of Crime Act which enables them to claim the rest.
So, it does seem that regulators the world over are equally as thick as each other.
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 10:20 GMT
Someone breaks into a computer system out of curiosity, to see if they can, and they get jail time -- someone deliberately inconveniences 15 million people and they're merely taxed on the income.
Seems if you want to get into crime -- make sure the profits are in the millions and the law won't apply to you.
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 12:16 GMT
So by this logic I should be able to rob a bank and only have to give back a portion of what I stole if I get caught? Who is writing these crappy laws???
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 19:05 GMT
So, How much do you reckon Sony'll have to pay up??
Posted Tuesday 2nd October 2007 19:57 GMT
Okay, the government got its money, but in criminal cases a judge may order restitution to the parties affected--unfortunately a rare instance in US courts.
Restitution would make a civil judgment against these guys easier to collect as it would be part of their plea agreement, and restitution can be held open though the case is essentially done.
But that would be justice--something our courts at all levels seem to dismiss.