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Microsoft appeals record European Commission fine

Alex Wright

Silly buggers. 

Gates Horns

What with the steep climb of the Euro against the Dollar, I bet MS are wishing they had paid the fine the first time around...

Anonymous Coward

Interest 

Gates Horns

If they lose the appeal they should be forced to pay interest on the amount from the date they committed the offense. Any bright El Reg readers able to calculate how much this would be using the European Base rate ?

Anonymous Coward

Oh, you need more clarity? 

Stop

No worries. Your fine is now 15 billion euros.

Does that clarify "Don't fuck with us?" enough, and do you want to try some more?

Andy Barber

Only 899m euro 

Linux

That fine should be doubled for the foot dragging fro Micro$oft!

Anonymous Coward

Just skip using any Microsoft products at all 

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is after all the only good solution to how to deal with Microsoft and its behaviour.

Charlie

It's not about the fine 

It's all about dragging the court case out for as long as possible.

Anybody know when the deadline for appeals was ?

I'd bet it had almost past when they filed.

George Schultz

This why != ! 

Alert

So this is why the dropped the attempt at !....

Red Bren

MS are entitled to due process 

Stop

If their lawyers believe there are grounds for an appeal and there is a legal mechanism for them to pursue it, then Microsoft are just as entitled to their day in court as anyone else.

However, like anyone else appealing against a guilty verdict, they should be made to serve their sentence IMMEDIATELY and if their appeal eventually succeeds, then they can claim compensation.

The EU should be seizing MS assets to the value of the fine, or banning them from trading within the EU borders until they comply. That might make them think twice about stringing the process out and might even make them reform their anti-competitive ways.

Anonymous Coward

interest payment 

".. calculate how much this would be using the European Base rate?"

well if the fine is roughly 4 years old (2004 original non-compliance date according to the article) then using the CURRENT base rate in EuroLand of 4% (I've no idea what it's 4-yr history is) the fine would go from 899m to about 1050m.

In other words, the kind of sum Steve Ballmer would probably find down the back of a sofa on one of his yachts.

Anonymous Coward

No problem... let MS get on with it... 

Happy

... Microsoft should be afforded every legal opportunity to appeal the decision and to exercise their constitutional rights in seeking justice over his matter.

Of course, accordingly, all purchases of their products and services by public authorities should be unilaterally suspended, free from contractual liability, until such time as those issues are fully and finally determined... :-)

Nick Stallman

@Alex Wright 

Happy

Hahaha well spotted. They are now going to have to pay far more.

Thanks for making my day!

Anonymous Coward

Microsoft is right: the fine is incorrect 

Given their behavious since then (the ISO affair is a good example) the fine was basically *WAY* too low. I'd double it for non-compliance. And again on the next stunt - let them suffer the power of two proper. They can either learn or shut shop in Europe.

Marios Margaritis

Happy to live in EU 

Happy

Was so glad to discover that here we DO have principles. Microsoft's failure to realise it sooner, used to US way of thinking, cost them a pretty good amount.

Far from everything being rosy in EU, with dark examples abound, having the central Authorities demonstrate such a solid front against prominent capitalist companies gives me a feeling of hope for the future.

Anonymous Coward

I think... 

...they are maybe hoping for another u-turn on a decision against them..............

heystoopid

One wonders 

Boffin

One wonders given the high cost of the legal shyster consultant teams ex US and Europa as well for the last four years that would have set them back somewhere between fifty and one hundred million pesetas as well so one would think that M$ is milking the whole exercise to extract the maximum tax corporate offsets possible both in the Euro and US arms for as long as possible hence the excessive feet dragging to avoid settlement for as long as possible !

Giles Jones

Just cough up 

It's not like you'll need to money to buy Yahoo now.

paul

they will win 

Alert

money talks, and I expect them to get off. This is a mega corp we are talking about not a mum and pop store. The rules are different for them unfortunately.

Aodhhan

How to win 

Microsoft should slap their own hand and impose a sales stoppage of all Microsoft products to Europe for 2 years.

Imagine what kind of hell this would have on the EC markets and business futures.

There is a way for courts to fine companies for something which is debateable; and then there are ways for a court to be as stupid as a 9 year old school drop out and fine rediculous amounts in order to make no real point at all.

They might just get a clue about the difference between a monopoly and the only real product available based on what the consumer needs.

If a company wants us to buy their product, then make it better than what comes out in an operating system. People will buy it. Most people I know don't use Internet Explorer for their browser because it sucks, and doesn't have any good "add-ons". They use a product which is far better.

Quit whining, and produce something better.