Larry Ellison gets huge pay rise
dervheid
"What else can you give California's richest man?" #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 14:56 GMT

Herpes?
Leprosy?
RainForestGuppy
Oracle make too much money #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 15:34 GMT

Oracle Corp, the only company that makes Microsoft look like a bunch of saints.
I much preferred Ingres.
Wayne
Anonymous Coward
Poor Man #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 15:34 GMT

I don't normally comment but that's brought me out of the shadows, I'm flabbergasted.
I was just reading a book about corporate greed, so this guy is right up there , but it's not even going to "the shareholders" which is the usual excuse for screwing the customers. It's going into the pockets of a man who _already_has_a_huge_amount_of money.
I'm not jealous or anything. Just reigned to it all I think
Mine's the one with the patched holes and freyed cuffs...
Steve
"What else can you give California's richest man?" #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 15:34 GMT

A good, solid kick to the nuts?
David Cornes
Can never have too much money #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 15:42 GMT

It must be a curious kind of greed that drives a man worth $25 BILLION to request an extra $20 million a year in his pay packet.
Then again I guess those fuel and food prices rises hit everyone, and it's not easy making ends meet...
Dave H
What else can you give California's richest man? #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 15:42 GMT

A solid drive in the knackers?
Anonymous Coward
Why does he need the money? #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT

There's an election this year, and those campaigns don't pay for themselves...
Les Matthew
What do you give a man who's got everything? #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT

Penicillin.
Steve
@David Cornes #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT
> not easy making ends meet...
ain't that the truth. I was having lunch overlooking SF Bay last year, and this *very* nice yacht cruised past. Half the folks in the restaurant were looking and asking the waiters "who owns that?".
Yes, you guessed it. Larry on his way for a little afternoon outing. $20m will probably barely cover his increased lunch and fuel charges.
No, I'm not jealous or anything...
Anonymous Coward
Plan B #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT
Does this have anything to do with the new Google pipes in SE Asia?
Is this going to be the decade the super villan was born... cue Dr Evil laugh!
Anonymous Coward
As an Oracle employee... #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT

...I'm pretty disgusted. I wish I could suggest to my boss what sort of pay-rise I would like, but instead, most staff are told to think themselves lucky to receive even a basic cost of living increase. Yes, Oracle are hugely profitable, and someone is to thank for that, but what about the people on the ground, doing the actual work? Won't somebody think of the children?
Anonymous, because although I'm disgusted, I still value my job.
Brandon
how much do you have to have before it becomes greedy?? #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT

Sounds like a good reward to me... his company grew 25% in one year... that's incredible!!! The reason he's the 2nd highest paid guy on the planet is that no one else can do what he can do. If someone else could, they'd pay him less, or hire someone else...
I just wish I had bought stock in oracle a while ago...
And it's not greed... just because YOU don't have 25billion....
Paris, because no one else can do what she does quite as well, either...
alan
"Making ends meet" #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT

I bet his ends are meeting like a mot******ker.
Worth 25Billion? Greed, pure and simple.
Mines the one with the £50 notes falling out the pockets..
Kevin McMurtrie
Party like it's 1999 #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 17:41 GMT
Larry's racing yacht was recently mounted on Oracle's pond. Now Larry's attention is grabbing money, not crushing and destroying competitors. It all sounds to me like retirement is nearing.
Anonymous Coward
You always get fired for using Oracle - probably, #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 19:02 GMT
or the business goes under - quite likely.
No surprise you are paying over the odds, for something to store your business critical data in.
Oracle has so many businesses by the proverbial gonads.
And the database just isn't that good.
Michael
Oracle... PULL!! ...... *bang* #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 19:50 GMT
>>>And the database just isn't that good.
No, it really isn't. You have to do so much work to it (in painfully non-intuitive interfaces) to even get it to a usable place, it's just not worth the effort. For all but the most demanding of massive enterprises, SQL Server works just bloody lovely.
Mark
After a few million, money is worthless #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 19:50 GMT
But then it becomes power. And if someone has billions, you need MORE billions to make sure YOU conduct the orchestra, not them.
Pretty sick, to my mind.
pctechxp
Nice work if you can get it... #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 23:03 GMT
Happy to stand in for ya if you want to go on that year long holiday Larry
wayne tavitt
lol #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 23:03 GMT
Anonymous Coward
Communism.. #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 23:03 GMT

...or nationalisation sound like good options to me. Give it back to the people and a few oligarchs.
Paris, because she would surely love to spread herself around and share her profitable bits.
Mark
Where'd that keynesian multiplier go??? #
Posted Thursday 28th August 2008 23:03 GMT

I thought that rich people spent a lot of money so therefore a limit on the pay of the rich was damaging to the economy because of the Keynesian multiplier meaning their concentrated money trickled down to their maids and so on.
So how many people's average savings would it take to build up 25Bn in worth? And why isn't he spending it all?
Anonymous Coward
I have a plan for ten #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 02:54 GMT
40 foot high solid gold Buddhas arranged around the east-bay I am looking for financing sounds like I found my man.
Anonymous Coward
Ever thought that central banks are just counterfeiters #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 02:56 GMT
think about it.
They have a license to print money, they want something nice and shiny they just print money to get it.
Normally they just give governments money as loans, increase the overall amount of money in circulation, reducing the value of the money, and they move in ahead of time and pick up the real value.
We need to go back to a gold, silver, jewel economy, the way the system is set up we are just working for counterfeiters, that is the dirty little secret of money.
It would be amusing to see ole' Larry with his pile of worthless money, so he better spend it quick - there you go, that is how you do the Keynesian trickle down multiplier :)
Mark
25 billion isn't all it seems #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 07:41 GMT

I'm willing to bet most of it represents his stake in Oracle, so if ever Oracle went down the tubes, so would his piles (of money, I mean)
The 70 million is just pocket money.
Anonymous Coward
What do you give a man who's got everything? #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 09:18 GMT

a camel, and a needle
Beelzeebub
Can we have the Larry as devil icon now, please? #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 10:57 GMT

We don't need the saint one.
Dave
Wrath of Larry #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 13:39 GMT
Customer of mine was asked if he liked Oracle. Answer was "No, not really, but the CEO says we can't switch because he doesn't want Larry mad at him."
Now that's power..
Maryland, USA
What's the difference between Larry Ellison and God? #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 14:09 GMT
God doesn't think he's Larry Ellison.
Mark
re 25 billion isn't all it seems #
Posted Friday 29th August 2008 14:09 GMT
Well, if you'd had your money in US$ two years ago, you've also taken it in the shorts.
And even though there have been some HUGE crashes on the stock exchange, 11% over inflation is the average increase in value in stock.
This does not sound to me like a dangerous investment.
Scott West
Safety Secure Desktop ! #
Posted Monday 1st September 2008 13:29 GMT

So Everyone is happy with the safety platform across the globe huh? Just chalk it up on my stock and bond portfolio now for the future. And how about everyone buy a drink on me !
Tim Spence
RE: 25 billion isn't all it seems #
Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 15:08 GMT
Quite - almost all of his worth is tied up as Oracle stock. If he sold it all at once, its value would drop to zero. To quote Bart Simpson, "What's a billion times zero? And don't say zero!" Even when he dumps off a million shares here and there, to pay for his latest koi-carp lake or whatever, it has a noticeable downward effect on the stock price.
Also, much of his "pay" or as American's call it "compensation", is likely not in pure cold cash, but in options or perhaps full stock. Therefore when his pay rises to $72m, that probably means he's been awarded x million extra shares a year.
Norfolk Enchants Paris
@Tom Spence and others #
Posted Wednesday 3rd September 2008 09:08 GMT
All this talk about Larry's wealth being tied up in shares is utter rubbish.
There are 5 billion shares in Oracle.
Larry sold 1 million a day for 10 days in February, representing 0.2 of a percent of the shares, and earned himself about $22m (tax free) per transaction - or $220m in cash for the month. It had no noticeable effect on the share price. He did the same in January and December 07, November '07 and so on. So in 5 months he has turned 50 million shares into $ 1bn + in cash and traded about 1 percent of the company.
Yes he has a lot of shares but he has a lot of cash also.
Anonymous Coward
Disgruntled partner #
Posted Friday 5th September 2008 20:56 GMT

Oracle cannot be trusted.
As a business partner of Oracle for many years, I wish I could tell you chapter and verse of what they have put me through, but I am sure they would retaliate against me if they could figure out who I am.
I bet my business on Oracle, and while at first it seemed like a good bet, over time the whole relationship has turned sour.
They talk pretty to potential customers, but once you are locked in they are greedy and capricious.
Count me oppressed by Oracle, and too small to fight back.