And in another 13 years... #
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 02:07 GMT
...it'll fit on a $10 USB thumb drive.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 02:07 GMT
...it'll fit on a $10 USB thumb drive.
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Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 02:07 GMT
my living room, seriously. not enough room to swing a cat5
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 02:53 GMT
2x 3/8" rack bolts....
Yet there is only one, and its half done up...
well done sun.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 02:53 GMT
Where's the rest of it... The aircon! I don't see any evaporators on that container, and there is no way those suits would be able to wearing anything more than speedos if that sweat box didn't have the wind chill factor of the Antarctic!
Love the loose and missing mounting bolts! I wonder how many head crashes a magnitude 7 would cause, even with the fancy (unbolted) spring mounts?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 05:23 GMT
...will one day have the space to store their archive of attempts at typing out an error free Hamlet script?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:07 GMT
We need one to archive all prior art against future patent attacks
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:07 GMT
...pictured is a common, "domestic grade" smoke detector. No fire suppression visible on the image.
Paris might call this fire suppression.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:07 GMT
Some good pics and tech detail at http://www.slac.stanford.edu/~boeheim/blackboxsite.html
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:07 GMT
IT Crowd reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Unless Blackbox have done something very clever - it looks just like a detector to me.
Tomb Stone - what you will need if you wait for that to put you out!!
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
"a digital Alexandria capable of surviving a Caesarean fire"
Melvyn Bragg's In Our Time radio broadcast discussed the library a couple of weeks ago. Historian chappy fairly sure Ceasar didn't burn it down (well, maybe just a little bit). Bit of a myth. But (UK readers) don't take my word for it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20090312.shtml
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
I bet that comes in one monster of a cardboard box.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
"At a metaphysical level, what we're doing today is reconceptualizing what a computer is"
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
And the archive created today will be useless because no one will have the right versions of browsers or Flash orJavaScript, and all the eejits who have used "rich media" for their "content" will, rightly, be lost in the mists of time.
In the same way, no one has 5.25" floppies or versions of Framemaker any more.
James Lovelock was/is right, we need more LIBRARIES based on documents, paper, books, we don't need more "interweb archives". Interweb archives don't work real well in the post-petrol era.
Anyway, the guys at the wayback machine are happy to take down anything that might be in the slightest way controversial (eg DEC/CPQ/Intel stuff in the Alpha vs Itanium era), which rather devalues their archive imo.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
I agree its poor to miss something so obvious & dosnt bode well for the overall standard of installation,
Who ever fitted them & accepted the installation on behalf of Sun is responsible & probably a third party contractor, but Id have em back to sort it pronto & check the rest of the installation to see what else required attention.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
It looks a lot like prior art to me.
I might also suggest James Follett's "Trojan" (1991) depicts a containerised broadcasting studio for a rogue satellite broadcasting mogul. He later moves his whole data centre onto an ocean going cargo ship.
I've not read the Google patent but I wonders what is not in the paper that is in the patent. Did they include their use of MPU's pre-screened by Intel with higher than usual operating temperatures?
On a side note $3000 for 320 sq ft is c $9.35 a sq. ft. That sounds quite cheap for a house. Not wanting to live in one, just saying.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
probably being a bit of a **** here, but by my reckoning, the reverse of the rack has some pretty scruffy cable routing. I'm sure it could be done more tidily. But it's too much to ask when they have a screw loose.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Water cooling it says, do up the bolts and finish the finish and this is a neat and nifty solution.
Why aren't Google bidding for Sun with this kind of interesting powerful building block and Eric Schmidt could be the best placed person having been at Sun to know how to run Sun?
This is such a great example of really what Sun can do and they alway seem to push out positive tech PR and this seems the best so far in response to any negative press comment about their financial and business problems.
Long Live Sun. . .
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
The article clearly states that water cooling is used...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Is this now an accepted history then? Will Page be giving up the patent on grounds of prior art? (Will he heck!)
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
No idea why IBM would want Sun. A Google/Sun takeover makes more sense considering the number of Sun people now working at Google.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Is fire detection, not supression. Show us the heptafluoropropane bottles!
Mine's the asbestos lined button-down...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Richard Dawkins was dead on when he said that the gene was being replaced by the meme as a basic unit of evolution. We have here one big tank full ready to outlive all of us, and not a piece of meat in sight.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
Then not only is Google's patent invalid if anyone can testify that Page or anyone else from Google especially any listed "inventors" was there. A company I used to work with, along with one of its competitors, was sued by a third competitor over what we all referred to as "the kitchen sink patent" the third competitor had. The "inventors" on "the kitchen sink patent" had done the same thing as this article accuses Page of doing - sitting through presentations by folks and then rushing to file a patent on those other folks inventions. In court, the lead "inventor" testified that he never saw the presentations that predated his patent filing. Unfortunately for him, at least one of the presentations was at a DARPA meeting and DARPA officials not only testified he was there, they had his signature on the sign-in sheet. We won the patent case (after roughly half a decade of litigation). The jury, when they delivered their verdict, also made the advisory determination that the patent is unenforceable due to "inequitable conduct".
http://www.ipfrontline.com/depts/article.asp?id=2046&deptid=7
http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/opinions/04-1007.pdf
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
I remember him - on Horizon - years back...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
"All it needs from the outside world is a power source (25kW per rack) and a cooling-fluid hook-up (ordinary tap water)".
An ethernet connection wouldn't go amiss either, otherwise it's simply a box sucking in 200kW ( eight racks ) for no real purpose.
Mine's the one with the 1000 amp cable in the pocket.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:09 GMT
It is watercooled; read the article. I imagine the waste host water is simply poured down the drain.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:12 GMT
... the bleedin' obvious.
Aircons and other large modular systems have been pre-built into containers for decades. What's so special about a few servers and associated support?
michael
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:12 GMT
By the looks of the thing, it's cross-threaded, too. Multi-million dollar datacentre fucked by a $0.20 bolt. Gotta love that mentality...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:12 GMT
In the 1980's the company I was working for in Toronto was using a Disaster recovery site which had "computer rooms to go" - 20 foot shipping containers with Power and Air Conditoning which could be delivered to a site, loaded with what every your prefered hardware was and you would have a computer room in the box.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:12 GMT
The lines about holding the internet brought this to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUyaELfwBo
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:12 GMT
It has chilled water piped into it. See the specs on Sun's website. I'm too lazy to point the links to you...
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:29 GMT
The Spec shows several Fire Suppression Options:
HFC-125 Fire Extinguishing Agent, RoHS:Y
HFC-227ea Fire Extinguishing Agent, RoHS:Y
FK-5-1-12 Fire Extinguishing Agent, RoHS:Y
BTW, that's not a "common, "domestic grade" smoke detector." It is a standard
Data Center Grade Particulate and Smoke Detector.
Love these idiotic comments from the peanut gallery.
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:29 GMT
Well Done !
This so clearly shows why Sun is such a Grand Prize !
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:29 GMT
HP uses those to ship replacement motherboards (one per).
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:29 GMT
>"I imagine the waste host water is simply poured down the drain."
What waste host water? Wouldn't the water be continously recirculated through a heat exchanger and the only losses in the system down to evaporation?
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:29 GMT
>"But this morning, Papadopoulus acknowledged that project sprung from Kahle, whom he had worked with at the Cambridge supercomputer maker Thinking Machines."
... see http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Thinking-Machines.aspx
Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:48 GMT
I'm the product group manager for the Sun MD, so let me clarify a few things.
* The rack bolts were left unsecured by the service engineer to facilitate rack removal during the tours. If you doubt the seismic capabilities of the Sun Modular Datacenter (Sun MD), check out our earthquake test video: http://www.sun.com/products/sunmd/s20/gallery/video2.jsp#video2
* There is an integrated, VESDA smoke detection and fire suppression system offering your choice of FE-25, FM-200, or FK-5-1-12.
* The Sun MD runs on a closed loop water system. There is no waste water. An external chiller sends cold water in which is then sent back to the chiller.
* There are panels on each side of the Sun MD for network hook-up.
* It's special because you can deliver a 200-kW datacenter virtually anywhere in the world in a matter of weeks vs. the months and years it takes to build out a conventional datacenter.
* A meat locker is generally 36 - 38 degrees Fahrenheit. We try to maintain an internal temperature for the Sun MD between 68 and 72 degrees, depending on humidity, etc.
* For more information, check out the product specifications and videos: http://www.sun.com/sunmd/
Thanks.
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Posted Friday 27th March 2009 22:10 GMT
thanks Maurice for clearing up the many questions and silly comments made by the great unwashed...
now they can all just STFU !!!!
mines the one with the keys to the container in the pocket...
Posted Saturday 28th March 2009 17:26 GMT
Thanks Maurice for clarification. Great project! Well Done!
Its like a giant living time capsule for posterity!
Wonderful Stuff !
. . .
I'm amazed on the internet how no one appears to have solved the internet cache persistence problem that causes so many problems with some sort of smart interlock.
And I hope with the tank full it is fully linked forward and backward and is preserved safely and I suppose at sometime it must be switched off to save energy and costs.
The next bit perhaps is near zero energy static storage perhaps out to 8500 and T10000 archive tape . . .
Posted Monday 30th March 2009 13:49 GMT
>>Sun has shipped its shipping containers "in the low double digits" to operations as far flung as the Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Centre in the Netherlands and the Belgian wind turbine outfit Hansen Transmissions.
So about 150kms apart then?