SCO threatened with Chapter 7 destruction
Anonymous Coward
Jesus! #
Posted Wednesday 6th May 2009 23:22 GMT

Are those bastards STILL around? Hopefully, not for much longer...
Nordrick Framelhammer
Finally an end to this silly and sorry saga? #
Posted Wednesday 6th May 2009 23:22 GMT

Does this mean and end to this whole silly and sorry saga?
SCO are a laughing stock in the industry and have been pretty much since they switched from writing UNIX applications to waving their tiny todgers around like demented kids in the hope that it would frighten people into capitulating to their ridiculous licensing scam.
raving angry loony
penultimate step #
Posted Wednesday 6th May 2009 23:22 GMT
Yay! Now I can only hope they lift the corporate veil and go after the assets of the executives who deliberately and maliciously drove the company into the ground to the detriment of the shareholders, all to do the bidding of a 3rd party.
Anonymous Coward
Go SCO Go #
Posted Wednesday 6th May 2009 23:22 GMT

Deserved to go.
Antony King
Ha ha ha #
Posted Wednesday 6th May 2009 23:28 GMT

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Oh that's the best thing I've read all year.
Matthew Barker
Perhaps there's hope yet... #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 00:27 GMT

Maybe the remaining execs can escape in their trusty Moller SkyCar.
ChrisInBelgium
Music #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:56 GMT

Is that a fat lady I can hear singing in the background??
Matt Bryant
Evil backup plan? #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:56 GMT

"We plan to oppose the motion and present our own suggested course of action to the court."
Later today, SCO spokesghouls will announce the company's intentions to sue all manufacturers, vendors and consumers of SCOnes, as they are obviously and perniciously using copyrighted SCO code in their products without a licence. Expect Sun's canteen in Sanata Clara to be the first to fold and fork out for a licence whilst the rest of the World points and laughs.
Dazed and Confused
Lets just hope some troll #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:56 GMT
Doesn't buy the assets and decide to carry on this stupid saga.
Psymon
Does anyone else #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:56 GMT

feel like bursting into song?
Ding, dong the witch is dead!
Which old witch?
The wicked witch...
Stu Reeves
Let's hope #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:56 GMT
the Lawyers are not seens as creditors and are owed millions....and don't see a penny
Iam Me
Heh #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

Poor SCO. At some point I may consider, thinking about, maybe, possibly, giving a second thought to perhaps, potentially, almost shedding something resembling a tear for SCO and it's execs.
Ok so the truth is I wont even come close to doing that, but hey at least it sounded good for a fraction of a second.
Anonymous Coward
Thank god for that #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT
now maybe we can get back to doing software and making the world a better place
Pirate Dave
To SCO... #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT
I fart in your general direction...
Anonymous Coward
Okay.. trial run successfully completed #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

Now for the real thing. Taking Microsoft down. <insert favourite Tux saying here>.
Gerhard Mack
Major mistake in the article #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

"SCO" != "The SCO Group".
SCO bought enough rights to conduct their business but were then bought by Caldera followed by Caldera renaming itself as "The SCO Group". The people suing are not the same people who negotiated the sale with Novell.
I know it's confusing but that distinction is extremely important.
Chris C
And so it goes #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT
"...and the company used this claim to force Sun Microsystems and Microsoft into licensing agreements."
I'm sorry, but what? They weren't FORCED into anything. Microsoft and Sun gave their money willingly, not out of fear or licensing issues, but as a back-channel way to fund the anti-Linux campaign (don't forget Sun was still trying to get people to go with Solaris, not OpenSolaris, at that time).
Regardless, this day was easy to foresee. Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long. Does SCO even have any assetts left? Last I heard, quite a while ago, they had sold the UNIX business and the mobile business, leaving them with zero business except the lawsuits.
If anything, the SCO saga should make one thing very clear to all companies (and individuals, really) -- when you're signing a contract, and especially when you're purchasing assets, make sure everything is spelled out. SCO had the signed contract, so they clearly knew that they did not hold the copyrights to the UNIX code, but they hoped they could bluff people with fear and intimidation. As one would expect, it did work against some companies, but not many. I suspect they were secretly hoping to get bought by IBM, or that IBM would settle since a settlement would likely cost much less than IBM's legal fees. SCO massively underestimated IBM's dedication to Linux and their resentment towards extortion.
Anonymous Coward
Bye Bye SCO #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT
Now the execs need to be asset stripped as well.
Roger de Laborde
You mean #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

they still aren't dead. Damn, SCO is harder to kill than Rasputin.
John Smith
They have had 2 years already? #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

"We are reviewing the motion with counsel and will have a detailed response for the court in due course,"
My doesn't time fly when your looking for finance.
It does look like only they are less a shell company and more a shill company for some one.
Can I presume that anyone with enough cash to buy this rump (because that is what is left of them) at the price *they* think they are worth has done enough due diligence not to?
Who'd have thought it. Sometime the money men do the right thing.
This is not the time for mercy.
Anonymous Coward
Article glosses over the actual timeline #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT
The Santa Cruz Operation (SCO) acquired the UNIX assets from Novell in 1995. The major interest was the Unixware/SVR4 code base though the deal also came with some royalty rights which were split with Novell. I'm not sure 'real' SCO ever haranged other businesses for cash over the IP acquired in this transaction.
It was only when SCO was taken over by Caldera (2000) and subsequently changed its name to the 'SCO Group' (2002) that it stopped being a company and became an IP pest.
The 'licensing' that most people talk about done by Sun and Microsoft happened around 2003.
It's a sad end for a small OS vendor who didn't make the transition from small business file & print networks to the web1.0. It wasn't alone.
SCO died in 2000. Its sad that a bunch of Utah Pirates dressed themselves in a better companies colors but I guess they had to it to dress themselves in a veil of respectability that they soon lost.
Disco-Legend-Zeke
Remember that BSD is fully licensed UNIX #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

and what ever happened to POSIX, the federal standard for *NIX operating systems?
Paris cause i still....
David England
Going for song #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 08:57 GMT

Maybe Novel or IBM could buy the remnants - nice irony.
Fred
Kill it already ! #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 10:07 GMT

Burn the witch ! Scatter the ashes, mix them with salt !
John Smith
@Roger de Laborde #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 10:49 GMT

"Damn, SCO is harder to kill than Rasputin"
But somewhat like Phorm. Still Nebuad are dead and buried. These guys are like those super weeds you hear about. The kind only the sort of weed killer that professional gardeners can buy can kill.
But there are plenty of professional gardeners and there is no shortage of weed killer.
Of course there's always fire.
Ponder Stebbins
Kamikazi Kompany #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 10:49 GMT

Eh, wasn't SCO Micro$oft's open source Linux project
Also see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/07/microsoft_search_built_on_open_source
Herby
Chapter 7 ans lawyers... #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 11:26 GMT
Ah, lawyers. The sad part is that the eating order in Chapter 7 (been there...) is the trustee gets first lickings. Then come the trustee's lawyers, then the people employed (are there any?) up to about $2k. Then it goes downhill from there. Hopefully the lawyers who are filing the lawsuit(s) against us honest (Linux/Unix) people are a bit further back in the cafeteria line. The food is running out fast, and "secured creditors" should be higher up in line than the sharks.
My take: A fitting end. Now lets get on with killing software patents.
Anonymous Coward
Good Riddance. #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 11:26 GMT

KILL IT WITH FIRE!
Anonymous Coward
@Stu & @Herby #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 12:12 GMT
Lawyers get the dough first, whatever happens, they will be paid first.
The trustee is most likely a lawyer himself!
Lawyers? The lowest form of life on planet earth!
Geoff Mackenzie
That was just a test run #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 12:12 GMT
Anonymous Coward
HA HA HA! #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 12:56 GMT

HA HA HA, Die already! Go on!
(Paris, because she'll do tits-up, unlike SCO)
Christoph
Ending as a Caldera #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 13:36 GMT
Though they started as Caldera selling Linux long ago
Soon a huge volcanic crater will be all that's left of SCO
http://steve.savitzky.net/Songs/barratry/
Craig
The Santa Cruz Operation was NOT taken over by Caldera #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 13:56 GMT

Old SCO sold their trademark, and the OpenServer & UnixWare IP to Caldera. Caldera some time later changed their name to "SCO Group" which they could do as they then owned the trademark. The original SCO company changed their name to "Tarantella", and then years later was taken over by Sun (and we know what's happened to them!)
And good bloody riddance to SCaldera, in my opinion. Old SCO was a good company, and all SCaldera ever did was drag their good name through the mud.
Edward Miles
Hmm... but are they really dead? #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 14:07 GMT

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!
Paul
why BK? #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 14:26 GMT
Never forget SCOX entered BK protection without being bankrupt. In fact, after many years loudly proclaiming how eager they were to reach trial they filed for BK the day before reaching court, with the deliberate and only intent of provoking an automatic stay on all the lawsuits.
Like everything else in the whole sorry fiaSCO the BK was a lie, just a way to stave off retribution for 18months. The hammer is now falling and the very act of misusing BK this way likely to bring personal liability to Darl McBride and Ralph Yarro.
Fatman
Kill that Fscking Vampire!!! #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 16:03 GMT

Its about time!!!
Put a merciful end to SCO; drive a goddamn silver stake right through its corporate heart.
Then take its worthless 'body' and let it burn in hell.
Then go after its execs.
This charade needs to be over!
Flames - because that is how SCO went down.
Joe User
When karma comes 'round to bite you in the arse #
Posted Thursday 7th May 2009 18:41 GMT
It couldn't happen to a nicer company.
Gordon Crawford
needed #
Posted Friday 8th May 2009 15:35 GMT

Needed , a smart Judge , who will Give any and all software over to the public domain
sell the assets and give the preceeds to itself to pay for the gov s expenses.....
1. this gives all companies affected by the illegal behavior of the SCO company a chance to move on with out going through this again with another troll
2. all users , the above plus , no worries , and a future
3. the lawyers , the chance to get better software in the future , with out undue pricing or lawsuits over use of their software . [like they just tried to do]
4.all of us , the smug satisfaction that the lawyers got no money , the legal system works [on occasion], software troll can not only lose ,but end up giving it all the way [ losing it all ] and a warning to all companies about lawsuits..and greed..
5. stock holders , a warning to stop exec greed [YOU OWN THE COMPANY NOT THE EXECS.}
6 . me , not get angry over this stupid crap..............
John Smith
Burn baby burn #
Posted Monday 11th May 2009 20:24 GMT

That is all.