RE yawn-provoking Sunshiners posting exactly the same drivel for the umpteenth time!
RE: Increasing commonality between IA64 and x64 at HP
"....So, under what circumstances would an end user pick an IA64 over an AMD64?...." That's a bit like saying when would a customer pick a Xeon over a Celeron. Whilst a Celeron can do a lot of what a Xeon can, you're not going to pretend that every user should drop Nehalem and go back to Celerons, are you? Itanium is designed as a "heavy-lift" CPU, it has much larger cache, a far greater number of registers, and a lot wider pipeline than Xeon or Opteron. Sure, if you have a lighter weight thread, and you just need CPU scale to say eight cores, then Nehalem (or Istanbul) makes sense over Itanium. But, if you have a heavy-thread app, like a lot of the enterprise commercial apps (e.g., SAP or Oracle), and you need wide memory and cache bandwidth to keep the data flowing, and the ability to scale for example above 32 cores, then Itanium is the better choice. You may disagree, but then a lot smarter people than you have done the benchmarks and gone for Itanium in hp Integrity (hp Itanium Superdomes are just about the de facto choice for telecom billing systems, for example, as they are the only platform that delivers the scale, sheer grunt and RAS at the best price point). I'm not expecting you to take my word for it seeing as you have already shown both your bias and your intent to immediately label anyone that disagrees with you as a liar or competitor and liar, so I'll just suggest you go talk to some of the companies on this list http://h20341.www2.hp.com/integrity/cache/405502-0-0-0-121.html and ask them why they picked Itanium over AMD64, Power or SPARC. Don't hurry back, you won't be missed.
"....It may happen from time to time, but in any given sale it will only happen when the end user is happy with IA64, the reseller is happy with IA64, the system integrator is happy with IA64, the app developer is happy with IA64, and so on...." Gawd, what a mind-numbingly innaccurate pile of male bovine manure. I'm a customer, tbh I don't give two hoots about whether the reseller is happy as he'd better be worrying about my happiness first and foremost (or at least making a damn good pretence)! Here's the big news you missed - Itanium has a massive number of applications, so I don't have to worry about the developer being as brain-dead as you either. Please name a major enterprise application that doesn't currently run on Itanium on either Windows, Linux, hp-ux or VMS. And as for integratrors should we make use of one, then you may be surprised to find all the major VARs are also hp resellers/integrators. So, to summarise, stop talking testicles!
"....IA64 is irrelevant...." Sales figures say otherwise, and the list of customers using hp Integrity for business critical solutions says it doubley so. The only thing irrellevant here is the continued mindless posting of repeated and boring nonsense. Please try some new FUD.
RE: Matt = the definition of irony......
"....Matt, you've excelled again, lets see if we can get you toward 2'000 word rants sometime soon please." Two things for you to consider - first, I only post in repsonse to the repeated FUD of you Sunshiners, so if you stop your drivel then there would be no need for me to show you up for the morons and liars you are; second, try a word-count on the amount all you Sunshiners post and you'll see I don't even come close.
RE: Re: Matt the HP droid.
"No proof, just conjecture based upon the stated claims by Intel that they are delaying the release...." So at least a Sunshiner admits their FUD has no basis in reality, but am I surprised you continue FUDing? Not really, it's the Sun way.
"....I didn't make that up, it's in Intel's public statements. ...." No you didn't, you just delved into fantasy for the rest of your post.
"....Intel is either lying (probable) or they have another serious issue with their overly complex chip...." From what I've read, the chip core is done, the additions like the DDR3 memory controllers are all peripherals, same goes with anything like the "hypercache" idea. Sorry to remind you, but Itanium isn't struggling with the basics like Rock, which can't even get scout threads and transactional memory working. And Intel can afford to take the time to get Tukwila right because it will be competitive, whereas Rock is already behind the curve and falling further behind every day. Power7? Who knows, has the core design even been cut to silicon yet? Looks like Tukwila is ahead of the potential rivals.
"....What's your hatred of everything non-HP based on?" I don't have a "hatred" for anything, just a profound distaste for the unethical approach of you Sunshiners and your FUD habit. What should worry you more is the profound liking for hp that the customers have developed as it means less options for neanderthals like you.
/SP&L, especially at the Sunshine re-runs - has Sun fired all their FUD merchants, can't they think of anything new?