Sir Alan Sugar hits eject button at Viglen
Neur0mancer
Surralan #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:34 GMT

He is actually a below average lucky businessman but profited immensely from the short term boom in property. Now that has fallen on its arse it's a miracle he isn't signing on.
Nursing A Semi
Viglen #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:34 GMT

How the donald can any properly carried out selection process lead to awarding a desktop PC contract to Viglen?
We want your chairman to work for us, scratch scratch scratch... Yup no problem we will pop him in the post?
Anonymous Coward
caIf the Queen gave him a knighthood can the Register award him a BOFH? #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 15:34 GMT

Having promised to sell 70,000 computers (presumably including software and support infrastructure) at (70,000 / 30000000 =) £428.57 each perhaps he has just done a runner before the shit hits the fan.
Anonymous Coward
Hold on a mo... #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 16:03 GMT

Sinclair Computers Ltd?
RIP.
Rob Beard
Sinclair #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 16:03 GMT

Okay, my hopes of the Sinclair Loki* machine being released are now dashed**, guess that's not going to happen now they have dissolved Sinclair Computers Ltd.
Does that mean though that someone else can start up Sinclair Computers Limited and sell computers?
Mine's the one with the copy of Crash and stack of 3" disks in the pocket.
Rob (actually more of an Atari ST fanboi)
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki_(computer)
** Hey if the Amiga fanboi's can keep hoping for the Amiga's second coming then I'm sure as heck going to hope for the release of the Loki system.
Anonymous Coward
Can't have bought back Viglen #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:03 GMT

... because he didn't own it in the first place. He had nothing to do with Viglen until he bought it in the 90s.
LesB
I remember Viglen.... #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:03 GMT

They used to make pretty solid, generally reliable office PCs and (shock!) had decent support. All went a bit wrong after a while. It was the support that went first - instead of the old method (techie[1] places call, they say "engineer tomorrow?"), they introudced the "try another three sets of NT4 startup disks on that machine that won't boot, and err, dunno what to do next" method. Cheaper in the short run, bur ensured I never bought another computer from them...
I can't *quite* recall if this happened after Mr Sugar bought the company. I just prefer to think it happened in that order.
Andy 70
Sinclair Loki? #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:03 GMT

if you want Loki hardware, you'd best be looking at the SAM coupe' as that's want got the benefit of the designers ideas, then they were on the Atari Jaguar program after the abortive and mysterious Janus system... didn't the Jag have a custom chip named Janus?...
PH cos her chesticle hardware is MIA too.
Anonymous Coward
Viglen = complete crap #
Posted Monday 6th July 2009 20:03 GMT
Yep the hardware is cheap as chips which is why the Gov and public sector organisations love it as it gives them more to spend on Moats and bottles of Bollinger, all on expenses of course.
Will Godfrey
Never forget #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:00 GMT

AMS started out as a London barrow boy, and made his first business killing by sticking labels marked 'Medicated' on to plain shampoo bottles then doubling the price.
Mike Gravgaard
RE: Viglen = complete crap #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:00 GMT
I agree though please don't paint all of the public sector with the cheap rubbish arguement.
In the public sector I work in, we have HP PCs and Wyse terminals.
Mike
PS we in the public sector don't all get expenses...
Tim Brown 1
Hang on a mo... #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 00:00 GMT

...isn't the whole premise of 'The Apprentice' that the winner gets a job with Sirallun's firm. If he's resigned from everything, where's the winner going to work? Or will a post in government be the prize in future?
tony trolle
Sinclair Computers Ltd #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 07:00 GMT

never made sense to me then why he bought it.
Grease Monkey
Viglen Were Good, Once #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 09:49 GMT
Viglem produced pretty solid, reliable, workmanlike kit once upon a time and the support was good too. Then they went downhill rapidly in both departments. I'm sure that nobody would suggest that this was in any way related to Sugar buying the company and imposing the same ideals on it as he had previously employed at Amstrad.
Peter Gathercole
Viglen? A PC manufacturer? #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 11:40 GMT

If I remember correctly, they started by skinning TEAC bare 5.25 floppy drives in a plastic sleeve case, with appropriate wires and a 40/80 track switch, for BBC Micros. Not a PC product in sight then.
I've still got one somewhere, and it (and the BBC Micro) still worked last time I tried it (but the floppiess themselves are pretty patchy). Think I paid £199 for it, plus the cost of the 8271 disk controller kit and DFS ROM. Seemed cheap at the time, and it probably was, bearing in mind how many people bought them!
If you look, there is a battered copy of the BBC Advanced User Guide in the inside pocket. Thanks.
Lozzyho
I just don't get it #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 11:40 GMT

Seriously, can someone explain what the Alan Sugar hero worship is all about?
I mean, the guy has peddled utter tat all his life and his one true skill is how to design something just cheap enough that it fails the day after the warranty runs out.
Now the BBC seem to like the taste of his arse, and the whole country (present company excepted I hope) seems to think he is Britain's equivalent to Gates/Jobs/Ford/whoever.
The man's a total clown with an ego complex and I can't understand why Mr Brown wants him in the government.
Oh wait a minute...
Bo Pedersen
and I thought it was just me #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 19:02 GMT

I have always thought he was over hyped, I remember his blatant lies on the governments' national savings adverts the whole "I dont take risks" comment contradicts everything he has done
Many of his companies were high risk technology companies in an extremely competitive market.
Any self respecting business man would never behave like he does.
Not the right man to assist the government in enterprise!
No doubt Tahir Mohsan and Tariq Mohammed formerly of the lovely TIME COLOSSUS MR.PC etc will get a nice government position :)
Bod
Viglen floppy drives #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 19:02 GMT
Ah, those were the days :)
Think I had some 'Watford' disc controller though that was non standard but more advanced (double density disc support I think!). Was good except for being incompatible when it came to "backing up" some copy protected discs (yep, they had copy protection even back then).
The expense though for a floppy that would store a few hundred KB !!!!
sleepy
clueless politicians #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 19:02 GMT
It just confirms that politicians are clueless about business, and want to believe it's a kind of magic, with Alan Sugar as a well known magician. On the other side, he seems to know the game is up, and is happy to stop being a businessman.
His businesses have been about selling a "mug's eyeful" of apparent features (his words, I believe) at the cheapest possible price. They presume customer ignorance, which is harder to come by in the internet age.
Anonymous Coward
The Bloody Apprentice #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 21:27 GMT

Siralan lets people know what is really on his mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxi6QDwQyLU
Steve Evans
Makes a change.... #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 21:27 GMT

That someone in politics actually retreats from business.
Usually they do the opposite, they are employed for their expertise in the running of Govt, winning contracts and the like... A more obvious conflict of interest I have yet to see.
Lunatik
E-Mailer - LOL #
Posted Tuesday 7th July 2009 22:22 GMT

A Mediocre Sales Twat Resigns, Apathy Descends