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A British software engineer is suing Chinese company Huawei for racial discrimination after they made him redundant but allegedly employed new Chinese staff in the Basingstoke office where he worked. Judeson Peter, 39, who had a £48,000-per-year job as a customer support engineer specialising in fibre optics for Huawei, was …

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  2. sugerbear
    Happy

    Holds Popcorn

    I cant wait to see how this one plays out.

    I wonder if I can sue my old employer for replacing me with a Indian programmer. I always knew it was 'cause I iz white :)

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I was concerned...

    ... until I read "According to the Mail" ...

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "the Chinese staff are employed by a different branch of the group, a holding company located in China."

    So?

    If the imported staff doing the work that UK workers had been doing, not only has there been an injustice (those are expected), there has (afaik) been a breach of employment law.

    Depending on the immigration/visa/employment status of the imported staff, there may have been a breach of immigration law too. Theresa may not be interested, but someone else might.

  5. br0die
    WTF?

    Judeson Peter? Did he adopt the Chinese way of rearranging first and last names in order to fit in?

  6. JohnG

    This is the evil of the ICT (Intra Company Transfer). Employ people using a company outside the UK, under terms and conditions not legal in the UK and send them to replace UK workers under a Tier 2 ICT visa. If you rotate them within the year, you can even reclaim the NI.

  7. RachelG
    Holmes

    Yeah Daily Mail stories are assumed to be lies...

    ... until corroborated by a newspaper.

  8. John McCallum
    Devil

    Redundancy

    It is not you that are made redundant but your job is deemed to be superflous to the needs of the company.Was he offered an other post with the company if so what and at what pay scale the same or better?

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "was let go" ?

    Not a native speaker of English, but I do believe that "to let someone go" implies that *the person in question* wished to leave, and was granted permission (or whatever).

    In this case, he was "fired", "sacked", "given the boot", or in the worst case (if you are a manager) perhaps even "terminated" (which has an extra special ring if you're from Germany...)

    But he was not "let go".

    El Reg, don't succumb to Corpspeak, please...

    1. Silent but Deadly
      Flame

      Usage is correct.

      "to let someone go" means they were made redundant. Redundancy is not the employee's fault.

      "fired", "sacked", "given the boot", usually implies that it is the employee's fault.

      The use of the term 'local' is interesting. Could that mean that the replacements have been sponsored to come to the UK by another branch of Huawei and then rehired by this firm as 'locals'?

      Western nations should be looking at Singapore's model for skilled migration. Essentially, you may import management staff and temporary labourers, but anything in between has to be a native local. Or you can FO back to your own country.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Hmmm...

        Not sure where you're getting that from. My brother works in marketting in Singapore, and his wife works as a primary school teacher. Not sure either qualifies as management or temporary labour. They both migrated there to take up offers of work.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So does that mean there's a case for thousands of call center workers who had their jobs outsourced to India? Similar thing in reverse is it not?

  11. Milo Tsukroff
    Coat

    75 per cent were recruited locally ... Yep. From the local Chinese.

  12. Why Not?
    Go

    TUPE ?

    Can't see his stance flying, bet they find out he once was on a bus with a BNP supporter and said good morning.

    But it shines light on the rampant abuse.

    Offshoring is one thing not much we can do about it but onshoring labour to replace locals on worse conditions to locals is just evil. All so the directors can have bigger bonuses.

  13. Hairy Airey

    Any commenters live in Southampton...

    ...and have time to get along to see the tribunal case?

    Personally I think cases should be televised locally. We have so many TV channels and nothing to show but repeats and I think the public humiliation of bad companies would make great TV.

    However, with the unlimited compensation for discrimination the deviousness of employers (and bare faced cheek) seems to know no bounds.

    If only my case against CRUK ended up on the Register site. I was sacked from that because I would not "fit in", and they stuck by that when they found out I had Asperger's. The whole thing could have been resolved with a five minute chat. Care to get in touch for a story El Reg?

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I always like these phrases

    >Huawei believes that the process followed was fair and in line with the approach other companies operating in the UK would take to restructuring.

    Just because others do the same does not make it just nor fair. The test is rather simple, does his job still exist and is a person other than one previously employed directly by the company doing it? Yes to both and I would think Mr. Peter has a case.

    >Today the firm employs 650 people in the UK, nearly double 2009 figures, of which 75 per cent of staff are recruited locally.

    Recruited locally is not the same as recruiting locals.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmmm

    That's one way to get around immigration?!?

  16. darklord
    Devil

    no surprise there then

    We have one of there office right next door.

    And believe it or not its staffed by probably 90% or more Chinese origin. there are virtually no caucaseans working in there.

    Twinhead adopted the same philosophy recruiting only from chinese communities in the early 90's.

    .

  17. mhenriday
    FAIL

    Does this mean that Mr Peter would be in favour

    of «just cause for dismissal» legislation in the UK ; i e, that when firing an employee, an employer must show that 1) either his or her job had become redundant and/or 2) he or she was grossly incompetent ? From what I understand, one of the UK's so-called «competitive advantages» vis à vis other European countries with much more stringent labour legislation is that employers can dismiss employees ad libitum. In that case, perhaps he should direct his complaint to Messrs Cameron and Osborne, who are well-known for putting the interests of employees first. (He could also write to the Lord President of the Council, the Rt Hon Mr Clegg, but I am given to understand that the latter no longer opens his mail.) Or does he mean that such privileges only accrue to persons of non-foreign (non-Chinese) origin, in which case he might be better advised to apply to the British National Party or the English Defence League....

    Henri

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