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It appears that your brand-spanking-new Microsoft Surface may need more than the security patch The Reg told you about – you may also need a physical patch for its Touch Cover keyboard. According to multiple posts on Microsoft's Surface Forum, the edge of Surface Touch keyboards can split open at the seam where the keyboard- …

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  1. solidsoup
    Trollface

    Meh

    What a bunch of whiny pussies. Can't these people just be thankful they didn't get RRODed?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      No sympathy

      For any of them.

      They should have bought an IPad.

      1. h4rm0ny

        Re: No sympathy

        I don't think they're particularly crying for sympathy. From one of the posters in the thread linked in the article:

        "All this aside, I have to emphasize that I think the Surface, with the Windows 8 live tile interface, is a technological generation ahead of iOS and Android. I'm extremely satisfied with the device and would never think of exchanging it for any other tablet. Let's hope we don't get quoted out of context again by some in the media that lift our posts."

        Something that was missed from the screaming headlnie in the Register. Every day, they get a little more like the Daily Mail or the Sun in their pursuit of clicks.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      15 years

      In the thinking, 10 years in the designing, 5 years in the making......

      And it was late, very late.

      In all that time do you not think they should have product tested it?

      Didn't someone spend a bit of time testing the keyboard?

  2. Bob Vistakin
    FAIL

    Falling apart at the seams?

    Oh, you're talking about their *products* this time.

    1. bdam
      Facepalm

      Re: Falling apart at the seams?

      Perhaps this guy might have been able to give some advice regarding shit hardware running shit software: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-pMZd1fupw

      1. Bob Vistakin
        Linux

        Re: Falling apart at the seams?

        Fallapartgate has a nice ring to it, and it's great to see this picking up so much press now:

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/nov/09/microsoft-surface-cover-flaw

        http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57547549-75/surface-tablets-touch-cover-splits-at-seam-users-gripe/

        http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-admits-surface-keyboard-splitting-problem-7000007189/

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    just pull an apple...

    and tell people they are holding it wrong, etc.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      This is Microsoft

      They'll pay everyone off to bury the problem.

    2. Arctic fox
      Trollface

      Re: "just pull an apple... " Well it is tempting to pose a few apposite questions is it not?

      1. Are they pretending that the problem does not exist?

      2. Are they blaming the customer for the problem?

      3. Do they appear to be promptly replacing the equipment?

      It would appear that the answers to questions 1 and 2 at least are an interesting study in contrasts to A Certain Famously Cool Hardware Producer.

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        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "just pull an apple... " Well it is tempting to pose a few apposite questions is it not?

          Ever bought an Acer?

          1. Arctic fox
            Trollface

            Re: "Ever bought an Acer?" Once and once only. "Once bitten, twice shy" and all that.

            However, I don't think that "they're better than Acer" could be described as something for A Certain Famous Mobile Phone Producer to boast about.

    3. Robert E A Harvey

      Re: just pull an apple...

      Sounds like the old fashioned shoeshop "we can't take these back, you've walked in them"

      "Sorry Sir, you appear to have been pressing the buttons, not just gazing at them in love and affection"

      1. Arctic fox
        Thumb Down

        Did you actually read the article Mr Harvey?

        On the basis of what the article is reporting the DemonLordBastardDollarSignSwines are, apparently, doing nothing of the sort. Your point was?

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Coat

      Re: just pull an apple...

      LOL

      "Customer Service - It's YOUR fault."

      Everything "Defectively Yours" courtesy of Microsoft is the customers fault - for buying it.

      LOL

      New Slur Word for the Peeling Surface....

      The Microsoft Dodgy Board?

      The Microsoft Skate Board?

    5. Bob Vistakin
      IT Angle

      Re: just pull an apple...

      Seems this is exactly what they are doing now with the launch of Microsoft Reality Distortion Field 1.0. See it in action here, where they claim their lower resolution display gives a higher resolution than a, err, higher resolution one:

      http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57534066-75/microsoft-surface-beats-the-ipad-in-display-quality/

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Was it not tested by Microsoft upper management?

    You'd think gorillas would have found this flaw.

    1. OrsonX

      Re: Was it not tested by Microsoft upper management?

      Test an electrical product BEFORE release, are you insane?

      1. Ramazan

        Re: test before release

        That would be against time honored Microsoft tradition -- "Charles Simonyi didn't believe in testing. The guy wrote buggy code. He was a Smart Guy. He believed in the field beta test." etc.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Windows

    It was to be expected...

    As much as I respect some of the things Microsoft does there's one thing I've learned over the past years when dealing with Microsoft products...

    You should never get a version 1.0 product from Microsoft; whether its hardware or software is totally irrelevant. That is; unless you're willing to play beta tester and are prepared to deal with several flaws which most likely are going to surface (some pun intended).

    And I'm not saying this to badmouth MS; I'm saying so because this is exactly what MS history has shown us, time and time again. MS Expression 1.0 (website editor somewhat based on Dreamweaver)? 1.0 has potential but was full of bugs and often crashed. The current version (4) has become much more stable and is actually quite usable (and enjoyable if you're into this stuff). Windows Vista first release? Windows XP first release? Windows 7 first release? They all got their service packs and from there on things became a lot better.

    More recent hardware examples? Windows Phone 7? The first release didn't even have a task scheduler; while Outlook is very useful (IMO) for task management; the first release of the Windows Phone didn't bother to support it. Only the first major update (7.5) brought in task support. And even that is still lacking because while you can sync your appointments and contacts over the Internet with Outlook (or other software) you still can't do this with task lists (not even with Windows Phone 8).

    Microsoft ergonomic keyboards anyone? Their current versions are pretty slick and useful, but I've heard just too many complaints about earlier versions to include as an example too.

    Of course not all their v1.0 products are 'bad'. But history does show you that if you pick up a v1.0 you're taking certain risks to be confronted with design flaws and other bugs.

    As such; I'm not really surprised here.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Bleeding Edge

      There's a risk to being an early adopter for any product, especially complex ones.

      1. Lallabalalla
        FAIL

        Re: Bleeding Edge

        Yes but we're talking about a plastic casing on a keyboard not a new space shuttle FFS.

    2. Mikel
      Windows

      Re: It was to be expected...

      The exception is probably the KIN. They only sold a few hundred of those, and bought most of them back so it could become quite the collector's item.

    3. Michael Kean
      Facepalm

      Re: It was to be expected...

      > You should never get a version 1.0 product from Microsoft; whether its hardware or software is totally irrelevant.

      Indeed! I was somewhat surprised to find that you can't install Windows 8 on a computer if it happens to have an SD card in a slot, or an 'unsupported' USB memory stick plugged in somewhere. It'll show you your available hard drive partitions, but when you select one it'll say "we can't find an available partition."

      I would have thought just a small amount of testing would have revealed that problem early on.

      1. JC_

        Re: It was to be expected...

        Windows to Go only works on supported USB drives:

        "Windows To Go certified flash drives are built for high random read/write speeds and support the thousands of random access I/O operations per second required for running normal Windows workloads smoothly."

        So, yeah, your piece of crap freebie USB drive given away at the last conference won't be considered good enough, but there's a reason for that.

    4. OrsonX

      never get a version 1.0 product

      of anything

      from anybody!

  6. jim 45
    Thumb Down

    This article is just dumb, sophomoric cr@p.

    The Surface RT is an excellent product that is selling well. It's defect rate isn't 0.000%? I'm shocked beyond words. Should the top designers be fired if they won't sign a letter of apology?

    1. henrydddd

      Yes they should!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Defect rate > 0.000% is only acceptable for Google

      Everyone else should immediately offer a public apology from the CEO.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    Meanwhile the Nexus 7 is still to this day coming apart (well known screen lifting issue) and even catching fire, but no media dare say it lest they be downranked by Google.

    1. Mikel

      On fire?

      I would buy a Nexus 7 that was currently on fire before any sort of Surface.

      1. h4rm0ny

        Re: On fire?

        "I would buy a Nexus 7 that was currently on fire before any sort of Surface"

        Well if you actually meant that, I would happily buy a series of Nexus 7's, set fire to them and exchange them on a one to one basis for SurfaceRTs with you and by your value system you would be coming out ahead. But I suspect you don't actually mean that. If you do, just let me know... ;)

      2. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

        Re: On fire?

        I would buy a Nexus 7 that was currently on fire before any sort of Surface.

        Upvoted for sheer humour value - irrespective of products

      3. RICHTO
        Mushroom

        Re: On fire?

        Well you are mistaken if you think that setting fire to your Nexus will kill off all the Malware on Android....

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Downvoted because the failings of te Nexus 7 don't justify the failings of the Surface.

      We could have an interesting discussion about the Hype/Fail ratio for different products, though.

    3. Dana W

      My Nexus 7 is neither on fire or falling apart. Its such a good device my next phone may well be a Nexus 4. And I have had three iPhones.

      Its just that good.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @Dana D

        You have 3 iPhones..... Ok either a troll or a glutton for punishment.

        Be honest you really have one phone, a 6 year old Nokia and compared to that the Nexus 7 is cutting edge.

        Who the hell runs round with three phones unless the have some kind of ego distortion field surrounding them.

        1. Gob Smacked
          FAIL

          Re: @Dana D

          @AC 15:00

          U need to *RTFP*: "have had" != "runs round with" ...

        2. Dana W
          FAIL

          Re: @Dana D

          Not all at once you cretin.

  8. mhoneywell
    Go

    Give them a chance

    Nice bit of gadgetry I think, but as ever, wait for SP2 - hardware and software natch.

  9. Dana W
    Happy

    It just keeps getting better,

    I'm already having schadenfreude overload watching the Fox Newsies cry about the election, now I get to watch the Surface pull itself apart?

    The FSM does smile upon me, and my dark joy is fulfilled.

    1. h4rm0ny

      Re: It just keeps getting better,

      "I'm already having schadenfreude overload watching the Fox Newsies cry about the election, now I get to watch the Surface pull itself apart?"

      Why do you enjoy seeing other people have problems?

      1. bdam
        Linux

        Re: It just keeps getting better,

        "Why do you enjoy seeing other people have problems?"

        Not other people generally, microsoft specifically. Decades of bullying have come home to roost.

      2. Dana W
        Meh

        Re: It just keeps getting better,

        Lets see, I'm a disabled, lesbian, atheist living in America and you ask me why the Tea Party's sorrow and Mitt Romey's failure fills me with soft joy? Really?

        As for Microsoft, I spent 20 years fixing their junk. I earned my right to enjoy their sorrow, they certainly profited from mine.

        1. csumpi
          Stop

          Re: It just keeps getting better,

          There's absolutely no reason for a disabled lesbian atheist to hate on the Tea Party, nor vice versa. This hate between blue and red has to stop. There's no yin without yang. With this attitude, the US of A will go down the shitter.

          As you expect others to respect the way you think, you should respect the way others think. And then things will get better.

          1. Dana W
            FAIL

            Re: It just keeps getting better,

            Get real. I'm not sitting stewing, I'm laughing at how badly they take being on the bottom, They take it poorly.

            They assumed they owned the world. They lost an election and now they want to form new parties because the Republicans were not CONSERVATIVE enough! They felt their cause was too holy to be taken out by a majority. They needed a reality check and we gave them one.

            There is no reason hate them? These are the people who spent millions of dollars on trying to make sure I can't get married. They have had my family made illegal in 31 states, They tried it in mine and we won by the skin of our teeth after a year long fight.

            These are the people who reduced our government to a standstill. Did they care about jobs? No, did the care about the economy? NO, but they tried to overturn the law that keeps insurance companies from denying care to sick children 31 times. Because helping people is supposedly "socialist" Rather than work on the any of our many problems, their only goal for the last four years was to grind government to a standstill so Obama would be a one term president. This is not tinfoil hat stuff, this was their expressed goal. Enough people saw through it, and we voted. In unprecedented, unheard of numbers we voted.

            These are the people who are trying to make their very specific stripe of religion the law of the land, the ones who feel that the promise of religious freedom only covers THEIR faiths, they wanted to take that freedom and replace it with theocracy. We said no.

            These are the people who are trying to stop the health care that keeps me alive. The people who consider the social security I WORKED for to be the same as welfare.

            These are the people who took one business after another, looted its resources and outsourced the work to line their pockets. Then they called the people who suddenly found they were unemployed in an economy with no jobs unregenerate takers while they lined their pockets with bailout money and other peoples pension funds.

            These are the people who have tried for fifty years to rid the US of Social security, as its an "entitlement" unlike, billionaire parents and untaxed trust funds.

            These are the people who are derisive on the news bout how we want "things". Yes, we want things, food, shelter and medication. Gosh, how evil.

            I don't know how you can say there is no reason for animosity,either you don't live here, you are colossally ignorant, or you simply have not been thrown under the wheels of this phenomena. Yet.

            1. Anonymous Bosch

              Re: It just keeps getting better,

              Dana W - all that you have done here is to be vitriolic and childish. Your post has far too many errors for any one to think that yours was a well reasoned response.

            2. Lallabalalla

              Re: It just keeps getting better,

              "either.. don't live here, ... are colossally ignorant..."

              Or both.

              Excellent rant Dana, pay no attention to the illiberal GOP apple-haters. they all have their dicks in their hands thinking about gadgets.

            3. keithpeter Silver badge
              Childcatcher

              Re: It just keeps getting better,

              "These are the people who reduced our government to a standstill."

              I'm an ignorant Brit, but I thought that was how the US was designed? Checks and balances and no forward movement? Perhaps I've been reading too much Robert Caro.

              Mind you, we could do with a few checks and balances in the UK. I've realised over the last few months that our dear Secretary of State for Education can change the entire examination system for under 18s without having to have even a debate in parliament!

              Best of luck.

              Oh, yes, we are supposed to be discussing hardware. I want a netbook with a 9 inch monochrome electric paper display, proper keyboard and a battery life measured in weeks. Sort of like a Kindle mated to an AlphaSmart. Anyone rate my chances?

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