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  1. The Vociferous Time Waster

    The cute things they say

    To celebrate Friday here are some of the conversations I have had in the last year.

    "The server is down."

    "Which one, we have hundreds."

    "I don't know, I'm not in IT."

    "Yet you feel qualified to conclude that one of the servers is down."

    "The firewall is blocking some JavaScript."

    "Are you sure the words you are looking for aren't perhaps 'proxy server'."

    "OK, smartass, the firewall is blocking the proxy server."

    "The firewall between my PC and the server is blocking my traffic."

    "There isn't a firewall between your PC and the server."

    "The network must be down then."

    "Unlikely."

    User had locked their account by typing their password wrong.

    "Service is down, everything is running slow."

    "Surely it can only be one or the other."

    "It's a network problem, the user is getting a 404 error."

    "So they are receiving an error back from the server to say that the server cannot find the page in the URI? Doesn't that imply that the network connection to the server is working perfectly?"

    "I don't have the actual error number."

    "Right, so we're just making things up now?"

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    1. Falmari Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: Techies - The stupid $H1T they say!

      Oh it is so true we know the techies in support follow the 3 Rs rule when some things is not working.

      1) Reboot, not fixed then step 2

      2) Reinstall, not fixed then step 3

      3) Replace.

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    2. Anonymous Coward
      Thumb Up

      Re: Techies - The stupid $H1T they say!

      And, let us never forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU

      1. Proud Father

        Re: Techies - The stupid $H1T they say!

        "You rebooted the Exchange server!"

        Priceless, very funny video.

      2. ecofeco Silver badge

        Re: Techies - The stupid $H1T they say!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU

        Good reminder.

        I though this funny as hell when I first saw it. Then I lived it. That tech could easily have been sitting next me at almost everyplace I've worked and the callers are easily half of the calls on any given day.

        It's a shame that most of the stereotypes about tech support are unfortunately true.

    3. Daniel B.

      Re: Techies - The stupid $H1T they say!

      Ah, the elusive 500. Sometimes you'll actually get interesting stuff on the logs, or on the page. But if it's IIS, there's a good chance that the only thing you'll get is "500 Internal Server Error" and nothing on the logs. Which leads to this interesting exchange from a couple years ago:

      Developer: What does a 500 error mean?

      Sysadmin: Oh, it means "Internal Server Error"

      Developer: Yeah, but what does that actually mean?

      Sysadmin: That there's been an error inside the server.

      Everyone starts laughing

      Sysadmin: No, really. I'd usually get something to work on in the logs, but bloody IIS won't give me jack shit this time!

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The Email isn't working

    "The email isn't working!"

    "Is there an error message?"

    "I don't know, I can't see anything on the screen"

    "Er, is the computer actually working?"

    "Well there's a light on the box."

    "Is there anything on the screen?"

    "No I told you, the email isn't working"

    "Is anything else working?"

    "What, like Word?"

    "Yes. like Word."

    "No nothing is working."

    etc.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    My <COMPLICATED SQL-BASED SOFTWARE PACKAGE> isn't working

    And it really wasn't. Three complicated rebuilds later, the mystery of why said package stopped working in spectacular fashion (corrupt data on two different laptops) was apparently no nearer resolution. Until we looked at the Event Logs:

    Me: Joe.. you're not switching of the PC every night by holding the power button down for four seconds... are you?

    Joe Bloggs: ... No....

    Me: You are, aren't you?

    Joe Bloggs: ... Yes.

    Me: Don't.

    1. Stacy

      Re: My <COMPLICATED SQL-BASED SOFTWARE PACKAGE> isn't working

      I love those ones. Always assume the user is lying!

      In my first job ones of the salesman (who liked to think he was technical) inherited my computer when it was replaced. After 40 minutes of me giving it to him he called me:

      Him: This computer you gave me doesn't work

      Me: It worked 40 minutes ago when I gave it to you. What have you changed?

      Him: Nothing

      Me: You changed something didn't you

      Him: I looked at a couple of config files, but I didn't change anything

      Me: What did you change?

      Him: I maybe changed something in Autoexec.bat, but I changed it back

      Me: What did you change?

      Him: I looked at the NetWare config file as well, but I changed norhing

      Me: What did you change?

      Him: I changed a couple of files, but I don't know what

      It turned out that he had done something strange with the autoexec, I don'tremember exactly what, but the main problem was that he removed the MAC address from the NetWare configuration so the network driver stopped working.

      And of course he didn't take a back up of it first.

      I wished him luck and went back to work (I wasn't on support for the machines...)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: My <COMPLICATED SQL-BASED SOFTWARE PACKAGE> isn't working

        "Always assume the user is lying!"

        That does exemplify the classic conversation pattern I had many times in support.

        User: It's stopped working.

        Me: What have you changed?

        User: Nothing.

        Me: What have you changed since it last worked?

        User: Nothing.

        Me: Are you sure you haven't changed anything?

        User: Yes. I've changed nothing - that is relevant.

        Me: What did you change...?

        1. Scott 62

          Re: My <COMPLICATED SQL-BASED SOFTWARE PACKAGE> isn't working

          on a vaguely related note, I went for a job interview a view years ago for a support job and we got onto the topic of customer relations / customer service and i essentially said "never trust the user"

          afterwards i found out that saying that cost me the job...maybe it wasn't the most appropriate thing to say in an interview but it's 100% true. if you've worked in a support role for any length of time it's a fact of life that you cannot trust them and generally need to assume they're lying :p

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: My <COMPLICATED SQL-BASED SOFTWARE PACKAGE> isn't working

            Pretty sure it was "assume the user is lying" that cost you the job. I wouldn't want to work with you either.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Here's a whole bunch of em...

    Computer Stupidities

    1. beep54
      Happy

      Re: Here's a whole bunch of em...

      @malle-herbert THNAK YOU!

  6. msknight

    Explicable when we knew how...

    I was sat in my office one day when a call came through the system. Can't remember the exact words but it was a detailed report, something like, Computers not working, printers fine, etc., etc, ... strong smell of smoke...

    I got up and wandered across campus to the offending building.

    Apparently, workers were digging up the road and some unfortunate soul had gone through a mains cable, knackering the supply and presumably leaving a widow, etc. Nothing I could do there, so I proceeded to the building in question.

    In the mean time, the generator had kicked in to supply power to the building, which was why the printers came back on by themselves. However, the exhaust pipe for the generator had been positioned next to the air intake for the air conditioning systems ... so as the generator was working, the people inside were being gassed with diesel exhaust.

    And during all this, some unnamed "person" instead of evacuating the building, decided to stop and log a detailed helpdesk call as what was working, what wasn't, etc..

    *sigh*

  7. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

    My PC's not working...

    Re-told to me by a support desk person...

    User: My PC's not working.

    Helpdesk: Are there any lights on the front?

    User: No, and nothing happens when I press the power button.

    Helpdesk: Can you check the PC is plugged into the wall and is switched on at the wall?

    User: It's hard to see round the back as it's quite dark now the lights have gone off...

    1. Naughtyhorse

      Re: theres more....

      Helpdesk: I see, do you still have the original packaging the machine came in?

      Luser: Yes...

      Helpdesk: Okay, I suggest you repack everything and take it back to the shop you bought it at.

      Luser: Will they replace it?

      Helpdesk: No. You are just too fucking stupid to own a computer.

    2. James 51

      Re: My PC's not working...

      The infamous WordPerfect you're too stupid to own a computer gag. Get's 'em ever time.

    3. Terry 6 Silver badge

      Re: My PC's not working...

      Yeah, been there,done that.

      Middle of a power cut some bright spark wanders in and complains that she can't get the computer to work. (Sigh).

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    MD: My phone isn't working! I need it sorted !!!!

    Tech: Are you technically sure sir?

    MD: Yes! why????

    Tech: Cos you're on it!

    MD: oh F*** off! durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    1. G7mzh

      I used to work in a call centre, which people would occasionally misdial.

      Me: What number did you dial?

      Caller: I don't know, I'm on my phone.

      (Why he was specific about it being his, I have no idea).

  9. Zog_but_not_the_first
    Angel

    Dilbert

    But I bet it's based on fact.

    http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Token%20Ring

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Dilbert

      Everything in Dilbert is true. I've actually seen it with my own eyes.

    2. BongoJoe

      Re: Dilbert

      Well I was in in a client's IT department one day when a head of management burst in.

      "I can't get on the internet", was the cry

      "Oh, they're backing it up" says I.

      And off senior manegment went happy with the answer, however the Head of IT, the only know who understood what I said, held me with a steely glare and said "Never, ever do that again"

  10. Lee D Silver badge

    Forwards me a Viagra spam:

    "Hi, Just so you know, I got this this morning"....

    Thanks. Now so did I!

  11. Jay 2

    Is it?

    User: Is server X down?

    Me: Are you asking me, or telling me?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Is it?

      ???

      He's asking you ...

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Another video

    awood, great video that. Here's another you'll enjoy, I'm sure many of us can relate to it!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Another video

      Been there, lived that.

      Good reminder.

  13. Elmer Phud

    Font gone wrong

    'It's not working properly, I can't read things'

    Went to look.

    Cntl+scroll -- big text.

    Then spent a while insisting it wasn't the machine doing it.

    'Oh, I might have . . . '

  14. Tony Green

    Back in the 1980s, green-screen terminals attached to our ICL mainframes had their "protected field" (ie, the parts of the screen you couldn't type anything in, such as labels) half intensity.

    Software support bloke: I don't know what's happened, but all the protected fields have disappeared from my terminal.

    Me: just to the right of the screen, you'll see a little knob marked "brightness". Can you try pushing that up?

    Bloke: ooh wow! They're back!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Sadly, despite turning that knob to full, the user didn't get any more intelligent.

  15. Gerard McGill

    User: nothing is working

    helpdesk: OK can you try a reboot first

    User: Phone goes down ..... large bang ... OK is did do that first but it didn't help.

    helpdesk: What do you think a reboot is ?

    User: I kicked it

  16. Paul 87

    Qualifying this as an IT story because it took place on a software package (hey, it's a less tenuous link than some of the articles on here!)

    Client: Ok, so we've invoiced the same shipment three times and given them to the customer

    Support: Since you've given them to the customer, they're a legal document, you'll need to issue a credit note for two of the invoices

    Client: I can't do that, only one's been paid, I can't issue a credit note if the invoices are unpaid

    Support: No, you'll be issuing the credit note's to pay off the two invoices

    Client: No, I'm telling you, I can't issue a credit note if the invoice isn't paid.

    Support: Why not?

    Client: Well every time I issue a credit note, it asks if I want to generate a refund, I can't refund him if he hasn't paid.

    Support: Sir, why don't you click no when asked if you want to refund him?

    Client: I can do that?

    Support: Yes, why do you think it asks Yes or No

    Client: oh... bye!

  17. Slap

    Me: "What was the last thing you were doing with the computer before the problem occurred?"

    User: "Nothing"

    Me: "Well, if you were doing nothing with the computer how do you know there's a problem?"

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    User error

    Sometime ago while working in a junior desktop support role I was called out to see a department head (of an educational institution) who was complaining some of her emails wouldn't send.

    Upon checking it seems she was having difficulty spelling the names of the people and organisations she was emailing. I was forced to explain this to her in front of her whole department who she was having a meeting with when I visited.

  19. Tsunamijuan

    You mean I actually have to do stuff for it to work

    This actually happened yesterday....

    Phone *ring

    User: stuffs not working

    me: okay we need to be more specific than that, whats not working.

    User: well the file isn't there

    me: what file are we talking about? and what are you trying to do?

    User: well _____ no longer exists'

    me (luckily able to figure out wtf they are attempting to do that this point) - Did you run the report that generates the file?

    user - run what??? you mean I have to run it? I don't think you know what your talking about....

    me: I wish I didn't know what I was talking about!

    What can I say, they either have no faith in technology, or to much trust in it to that point that they think it all just magically happens. I am going to go put pictures of users on the moles in the wack-a-mole game now to vent some frustration...

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  21. keithpeter Silver badge
    Coat

    end user perspective: remote control

    End user here, I only use Windows when someone is paying me.

    Employer No 1: Something not working but client PC boots. Phone hell desk, give box number. One of the lads switches on the remote control thingy, orange icon appears in status bar, I click 'allow', the lad has a look, tries a few things, sorts it out. At worst a reboot.

    Employer No 2: Something not working but classroom PC boots. Log job with centre manager. Months later, just after my last class of the academic year, chap turns up, switches the computer on, scratches head, phones his HQ, scratches head, spends 25min on phone call, departs muttering. Somehow I know PC will be in same state in September. Make mental note to bring presentation on laptop and a spare VGA cable to plug into projector.

    Guess which one is direct employment and which one has been outsourced for efficiency reasons?

    Coat icon: If I can't work at employers' location, I just arrange to work from home.

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    favourite keyboard

    Once replaced a keyboard for a user who had painted letters onto some keys. When I asked him what happened he mentioned that his keyboard keys were re-organised to spell" keep smiling bawjaws".(I presume they used a donor keyboard. ) over a year ago. Now missing keys he had no choice but to repaint over those keys.

    1. BongoJoe

      Re: favourite keyboard

      Have you ever installed one of those keyboards with no lettering on?

      Great fun.

  23. Dreadogastus

    Users have trouble with new tech

    Heard while working in a junior college computer lab around 1998.

    I'm sorry I think I broke the cupholder on the computer.

    Cupholder?

    Yeah, the little tray that slides out.

    1. Daniel B.

      Re: Users have trouble with new tech

      The first time I heard the cupholder joke, it wasn't quite a joke, it was an actual support call.

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Some of my anecdotes

    The year was 1996… we had two computers in the (primary) school library, both around 386 class. Both fitted with sound cards and CD-ROM drives. Both had 5¼ drives too.

    One had a tray-loading CD-ROM drive. The other took a CD-ROM in a caddy. (And yes, I still have some of those caddies, and some SCSI Plextor CD-ROM drives that take them.)

    When one student was confrunted with the caddie-loading CD-ROM machine, and a bare CD, how do you get the CD into the machine? Well, it fits in the floppy drive!

    ----

    The year was 2009. I was doing volunteer network administration for Asperger Services Australia who had appointed a new president. Supposedly from an IT firm. I was studying at uni at the time: Bachelor of IT (Software Engineering) / Bachelor of Engineering (Electronics: Telecommunications). My father was also involved with this group at a high level, he too has similar qualifications.

    We were conferring with this person, I can't recall the full context, possibly something related to 3G networking or some such, but then he dropped a clanger:

    President: I can't understand how these radio waves don't bump into eachother!

    My father and I just looked at eachother flabbergasted! If we had told this bloke the truth (i.e. they do bump into eachother), it would have blown his mind!

    ----

    I was at a radio club meeting when one of the other members wanted to show off some digital slow-scan television software on his laptop. So he gets a laptop out, plugs it into power, grabs a mouse and plugs that in, turns the machine on.

    Then wonders why his mouse isn't working. A quick look around the back, he "plugged" it into an Ethernet socket.

    ----

    At my present workplace, we were using WPA{,2}-Personal for the WIFI network. I wasn't happy about this, so I decided to duplicate the WPA{,2}-Enterprise system I use at home, but using an LDAP back-end for RADIUS.

    After a bit of tinkering, I got it working, set things up. Now we have mostly Windows 7 machines here, and Microsoft likes making connections to WPA Enterprise difficult when the RADIUS' TLS key is produced from a self-signed certificate authority. Not a problem on Linux, MacOS X, iOS or Android, but Windows has always been a pain.

    So I produced a short guide in our intranet Wiki site on how to connect one's Windows 7 laptop to the staff WIFI with the view that later, we would make our old WIFI network a guest WIFI with limited access. The link was emailed to all staff.

    Managing Director: I tried connecting to the WIFI network. It didn't work.

    Me: Did you try following the guide?

    MD: No, I deleted that email.

    ----

    Same workplace, this happened recently to one of my colleages. We support a number of SCADA systems operated by various mining companies. They all like using these RSA SecurID tokens for their VPNs. These are a time-based token with a 3-year battery life.

    Some tokens for one company's network expired. So we put a request in, and soon enough, new tokens arrived. So he tries to set up one of the tokens, then discovers he can't set the pin number.

    So whilst on the phone to their helpdesk, they ask for his computer's hostname. They wanted to remote into his machine to deploy the software needed.

    Now, I as network administrator, would love to know how they think they can, bold as brass, just stroll through our two firewalls into the machine in question when it can't connect to their network directly to install a piece of software.

    Apparently they didn't have an installer file that they could just send us. It had to be deployed via their network tool, which presumably assumes the machine is joined to their domain, not ours.

    It was pointed out that we were not employees of the mining company, the machines were not supplied by the mining company, and that we were external contractors brought on to provide technical support.

    Next, they have us a procedure which involved entering a number into the token. Great. Except there's no keypad or interface to enter anything into this token.

    I think the problem was eventually resolved.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Some of my anecdotes

      "Me: Did you try following the guide?

      MD: No, I deleted that email.

      I can't begin to tell you how many times I've heard this from users.

      1. BlueGreen

        Re: Some of my anecdotes

        >> "Me: Did you try following the guide?

        >> MD: No, I deleted that email.

        > I can't begin to tell you how many times I've heard this from users.

        Oh heck. The pain. I'm a dev not helpdesk but I worked with a guy who I reported to (nice guy but...):

        Send him some code

        him: "does this do x?" -or- "how do I integrate this?" -or similar

        me: "it's in the accompanying email. I gave precise instructions"

        him: I don't read your emails

        me: what? why?

        him: they're too long

        me: but... but... they give the instructions you need! I can't make them shorter, it's a complex system...

        him: just tell me

        me: just read it!

        him: No. Tell me.

        me: whatever.... (handholds him through it).

        I later find out he started deleting my mails without reading them if they were more than about 2 lines because "they're too long". So I'm wrinting (necessarily, unavoidably) detailed emails to get the (complex, sometimes intricate) job done which he bins straight away without telling me. Such a great use of my time. Glad I'm gone.

    2. Cpt Blue Bear

      Re: Some of my anecdotes

      "Managing Director: I tried connecting to the WIFI network. It didn't work.

      Me: Did you try following the guide?

      MD: No, I deleted that email."

      Tip of the week: make the MD feel and look competent - it will do your career a world good. If junior, being on a first name basis with the C-suite is good for frightening the shit out of other people's line managers, and if you are more senior when Mr MD moves on to be CEO at Much Nicer Place Pty Ltd, he might even take you with him.

      Many a career has been fast tracked by being the guy from IT that the CEO / MD / CFO calls when he needs help.

      "Same workplace, this happened recently to one of my colleages. We support a number of SCADA systems operated by various mining companies. They all like using these RSA SecurID tokens for their VPNs. These are a time-based token with a 3-year battery life."

      Australia? Mining industry? I'm guessing this was about four years ago. We had the same circus. From memory, we got that software you needed from the manufacturer.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Some of my anecdotes

        Managing Director: I tried connecting to the WIFI network. It didn't work.

        Me: Did you try following the guide?

        MD: No, I deleted that email.

        Tip of the week: make the MD feel and look competent - it will do your career a world good. If junior, being on a first name basis with the C-suite is good for frightening the shit out of other people's line managers, and if you are more senior when Mr MD moves on to be CEO at Much Nicer Place Pty Ltd, he might even take you with him.

        Many a career has been fast tracked by being the guy from IT that the CEO / MD / CFO calls when he needs help.

        I can't recall quite how we resolved that. Either I showed him the link to the wiki or I came in and did it for him. I do not recall which.

        Same workplace, this happened recently to one of my colleages. We support a number of SCADA systems operated by various mining companies. They all like using these RSA SecurID tokens for their VPNs. These are a time-based token with a 3-year battery life.

        Australia?

        Yes

        Mining industry?

        Yes

        I'm guessing this was about four years ago. We had the same circus. From memory, we got that software you needed from the manufacturer.

        No, it happened to us last week. I believe it is resolved now, I have no idea what happened.

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