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They call themselves explorers, but we all know there's a better word for anyone who wears Google Glass. Youtube Video Now the legendary kids' telly character Danger Mouse is set to return to Britain's screens, only this time he's a fully paid up Glasshole. A new series will air next year, with the rodent's eye-patch replaced …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Cast?

    Any news on the cast for this?

    How about David Jason as Colonel K this time around?

    1. Billa Bong

      Re: Cast?

      What better way to re-introduce a techno-savy mouse than to give him the voice of someone who gets confused over IP addresses and domain names...

      http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/stephen-fry-is-bookies-favourite-to-replace-david-jason-in-the-new-danger-mouse-animated-series-4765291/

      Glad to see the Reg willing to re-open the whole "Penfold the hamster is a mole" debate (whether you believe I'm talking about which species or where his loyalty lies depends on how much tin foil you possess). Wasn't that also a question on QI one time?

      1. Bill Sticker
        FAIL

        Re: Cast?

        Fry as DangerMouse? Oh ye cats.

        Still think Penfold won't be the same without the voice of Terry Scott.

  2. Suricou Raven

    I predict suck. DM was a product of the time - a remake just wouldn't be the same. They'll take it too seriously.

    1. Thorne

      They'll make it politically correct and overly moral......

      Will suck big time.

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      2. Rampant Spaniel

        No, leave DM alone. By the time they have finished modernism him he will be a lesbian and have a different accent each scene. DM worked as is. Leaving aside supergran, most kids TV was of a very high quality then, especially compared to the badly dubbed dross flung at our kids these days (although there are a few exceptions). They had plotlines that changed, effort was put into the animation and music. Just watch Fraggle Rock, Thunder cats et al then watch pokemon.

    2. dan1980

      I don't get it. There are numerous similar ideas that have been churned out over the years. What really differentiates them are the characters. To 'update' those characters is to loose part of what they were. If you're doing that why don't you create a new franchise?

      The thing that I feel won't work all that well, or will be lost, is that DM was a kind of parody of a certain type of spy character, from a certain era and much of the personality of the show was in that. The parody can be updated but that character no longer exists.

      The answer is, of course, that they want to play on the existing brand.

      1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

        Nostalgia is good business. Why else do they still sell those Fisher Price pull along phones, with the moving eyes and rotary dials? No child of an age to play with one has ever seen a rotary dial phone. Once they hit three, they're trying to mug all nearby adults for their iPhones and iPads...

        But they sell, becuase people my age remember them, and we're now in our 30s and 40s. So I guess they hope for DM merchandise sales. And who amongst us wouldn't want a DM outfit with eyepatch?

        1. Nick Ryan Silver badge

          I've wondered that with the pull along rotary dial phones... young children are unlikely to ever see such a device outside of old movies and museums yet they still produce new pull along rotary phones. Somehow my daughter even learnt to pick up the phone handset and talk to it. She's also glued to a more current phone toy model and learnt to mug adults for their touch phones at an early age.

          1. TRT Silver badge

            I took my kids to Amberley Museum (it's in the South Downs region and well worth a visit, especially for Bond fans) when they were 10 and 5. I had a fun idea of calling between the village exchange, the phone box outside and the power station. I had to show them how to use the dial phone, because they simply didn't have a clue. Never encountered one before. They were actually amazed at seeing the rotors go round. "How the flippin' heck does that work?" I was asked. The complexities of digital circuit switching... a snap. Analog pulse-dial... bewildering. Same as the interlocking mechanism of an old railway signal box - can't move one lever until three co-linked ones in a bank of 24 are set right. And it's all done with levers and lumps of rolled steel.

            1. Test Man

              >> I had to show them how to use the dial phone, because they simply didn't have a clue. Never encountered one before. They were actually amazed at seeing the rotors go round. "How the flippin' heck does that work?" I was asked.

              Man, I must be old :(

              1. Benchops

                > "How the flippin' heck does that work?"

                It's odd how actual moving parts seems more complicated than the "magic" of a touchscreen to the younger generation!

              2. Matthew 3

                They're still around

                I have one in my hallway and my kids love the novelty of dialling on it. It's not difficult to rewire one to connect to the modern sockets using an old modem's lead.

            2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

              I can still remember a trip to the telephone exchange in the mid-80s. It was Project X that they were so proud of I think? I got a Buzby badge as well. Huge rooms with racks of gear, batteries and generators. There's probably just a small server room there now. Plus backup power.

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                I had a colleague who used to work in a telephone exchange and was there around the time of the transition to digital. They kept the room. It had lots of space in it.

              2. AndrueC Silver badge
                Boffin

                There's probably just a small server room there now

                Maybe not even that. There's this thing called Cloud Communications. You can already purchase (lease?) a cloud-based PBX and I vaguely recall reading about BT being interested in the idea.

                So it might be that all that's inside the voice comms part of your exchange is a DAC/ADC bank and a data cable. Somehow that feels to me like 'the world's gone mad'.

                Back to DM - I always liked the name of the MoD research centre. 'Putnam Down', I think it was.

        2. Lionel Baden

          @i ain't spartacus !!

          I am ashamed to see MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

          There are only a few things i fondly remember when that young, and dangermouse is most definately one of them.

          Even is they destroy it, I would still watch it :/ Not sure how i feel about it though.

          1. Thorne

            "Even is they destroy it, I would still watch it :/ Not sure how i feel about it though."

            What about when DM drives a Prius and is worried about recycling his rubbish correctly because the only way to save the world these day is to be an environmentalist?

      2. Obitim

        The thing that I feel won't work all that well, or will be lost, is that DM was a kind of parody of a certain type of spy character, from a certain era and much of the personality of the show was in that.

        So you're comparing Danger Mouse to Archer?

  3. Valeyard

    Aw man

    The dialogue was really good in the original series, some very clever back and forths you only really appreciated the wit of which as an adult. I bet now it'll be sanitised and dumbed down with action and gadgets, I mean they even made postman pat more dull than the original and that's saying something!

    I'm going get the drinks in, hole up and play black forest chateau on the c64 and wait for all of this to blow over

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Aw man

      > The dialogue was really good in the original series, some very clever back and forths you only really appreciated the wit of which as an adult.

      There are all sorts of references and homages in the first series too. "Custard" has a version of the egg scene from Alien.

    2. Kane
      Thumb Up

      Re: Aw man

      Danger Mouse's trusted assistant, Ernest Penfold. Codename: The Jigsaw, because when he's faced with a problem, he goes to pieces.

    3. Chika
      Childcatcher

      Re: Aw man

      The dialogue was really good in the original, and that was only partly to do with the writing back then. The problem is that they need to find voice actors that can interact in a similar way to David Jason and Terry Scott, and that's going to be hard to do. Even if they do find people that sound good and write some good lines, if you don't get the chemistry right, it will all be for nothing.

      That's even before we get to who will be the voice behind the Baron and Stilletto, the latter being a problem even back when they did the original.

      This might be a boon for new viewers but I suspect that the remake is being done for all the wrong reasons and will annoy fans everywhere. I don't mind being wrong about that last bit, but I suspect that I won't be.

  4. Peshman

    Hmm...

    Penfold...Shush!

    I still say that to the Mrs when she goes off on one.

  5. wolfetone Silver badge

    I have always said that if Pat Sharpe were to be arrested under Operation Yewtree then my childhood would be dead. I fear now with the release of this imposter called "Dangermouse 2.0", my childhood is now effectively dead.

    Thank you BBC, no, really thank YOU. Arse.

  6. stu 4

    Load of Shite

    To 'win a new generation of fans' all that would be needed is to put the original series back on the TV.

    this has FA to do with winning a new generation of fans.

    My wee niece's favourite film is still Wizard of Oz, and it was made in 1939!

    Stick Danger Mouse, bagpuss, originial magic roundabout, banana man, etc back on the TV and they'll be happy bunnies.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Load of Shite

      Is that the original Bananaman or the film coming out in 2015?

      http://www.bananamanmovie.com/

      1. Gordon 10

        Re: Load of Shite

        Nnnnnnnnoooooooo!

    2. PastyFace

      Re: Load of Shite

      My 2 year old son loves the original Danger Mouse; we managed to track down a couple of DVDs. Just goes to show we don't need fancy remakes and that the originals stand the test of time!

      1. wowfood

        Re: Load of Shite

        My dad gave away pretty much my childhood video collection to a friend for their kid to watch. The kid didn't watch 'modern' tv. But he'd sit hours on end watching animals of farthing wood, classic noddy etc.

        1. Robert E A Harvey

          Re: Load of Shite

          oh. farthing.

          as you were, then. Sorry.

    3. Alan W. Rateliff, II
      Paris Hilton

      Re: Load of Shite

      And Count Duckula. Maybe this means my DM DVD collection will go up in resale some. Not that I want to sell it, but it could double my net worth.

      I am okay with the whole Danger Mouse "Glass" bit, too. It will help to reinforce the idea that the only people who need to use the real-time spying information gathering high-tech stuff are the spooks and plods, and we have nothing to fear if we are doing nothing wrong. Move along, nothing to see here, you can catch it on-line at your leisure.

    4. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

      Re: Load of Shite

      And SuperTed, and The Trap Door, and The Goodies...

  7. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

    BBC Radio 4 Extra

    The Beeb did a documentary on Cosgrove Hall a couple of years ago, which got repeated this year. Which was excellent fun. With lots of David Jason.

    I hadn't realised that in one week Dangermouse got 18 million viewers! It beat Coronation Street and Eastenders for that week. Which is astonishing. I can only imagine there'd been a catastrophic outbreak of flu (or skiving) that week.

    They also admitted that all those scenes in the dark, where all you could see were Penfold's eyes and DM's eye, were basically done to save cash. Obviously much easier (and cheaper) to animate. But they were also funny.

    I'm not sure the gadgets is all that bad a thing though. The original had gadgets. They had a flying car that could go underwater, videophone watches, computers... Plus Baron Greenback had plenty of Wylie Coyote style gadgets of his own.

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

      Used to walk past the offices every time we went to the swimming baths…

      Happy days!

    2. William Towle
      Thumb Up

      Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

      +1: also thoroughly enjoyed that

      ...actually, "in 1983 Cosgrove Hall Films' Danger Mouse topped the TV ratings with 21 million viewers - beating Coronation Street[...]" from the show description (at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03ccz0r)

      1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
        Happy

        Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

        William Towle,

        Cripes! Thanks for the correction WT.

        21 million for a kids cartoon. We 'ad to make oor own entertainment in them days laddie.

        They also did Chorlton and the Wheelies. Which is one of those things I had strong memories of, but no-one I spoke to had ever heard of it. It wasn't until the internet that I was able to find out what that show was.

        And one of the worst ear-worms in TV music (another show I watched), 'Jamie and his Magic Torch'.

        Happy days...

        [actually that's another show I watched back then where I still find myself singing the theme tune 30 years later]

        1. AbelSoul

          Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

          "And one of the worst ear-worms in TV music (another show I watched), 'Jamie and his Magic Torch'."

          And once in Cuckoo Land, the jolly japes would begin.

          "Come on Wordsworth!"

          1. Sir Runcible Spoon

            Re: Earworms

            I'll see your Jamie's torch and raise you a wun-wun-wun-wuuuuuuundeeeeeerrrrrrrrrwheeeeeeeeeelssssss!

            (If anyone has a Cpt. Caveman at the ready I'll forfeit now :) )

            1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
              Happy

              Re: Earworms

              Oh Cavey-Wavey, you're sooooo strong!

          2. Chika
            Happy

            Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

            "Come on Wordsworth!"

            Arrr... Cuckoo. You're all bloomin' cuckoo!

        2. Alan W. Rateliff, II
          Paris Hilton

          Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

          Not animated, and not Cosgrove Hall, but your mention of others shows you watched and finding things on the Internet reminded me of my own "other show" and trying to find it on the Internet.

          "The Young Ones." Absolutely loved that program. Later on in life I decided, hey, maybe I can find it on the Internet. While the proper search results have percolated to the top in Google these days, back then... just say that the results were rather heavy and not quite what the Peoples' Poet would have smiled upon.

          1. NogginTheNog
            Coffee/keyboard

            Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

            Hell no, don't tell me you got linked to the Cliff Richard film?!!

    3. Lionel Baden

      Re: BBC Radio 4 Extra

      I'm not sure the gadgets is all that bad a thing though. The original had gadgets. They had a flying car that could go underwater, videophone watches, computers... Plus Baron Greenback had plenty of Wylie Coyote style gadgets of his own.

      Gadgets are cool, Everybody loves gadgets. It when they start pushing products like an "iPatch" Some very non specific branding there !!!

  8. Ed 13
    FAIL

    Step away from the animation suite

    Really, *really* don't do it.

    I had to resurrect the VHS to play the tapes I had of D.M. for my kids, and they love it!

    It doesn't need updating, just showing again!

    1. Fading
      Thumb Up

      Re: Step away from the animation suite

      Ahh the videos - had fantastically funny, in-between episodes, voice over. Such a shame it wasn't on the DVDs.

  9. Christoph
    Joke

    "knee-trembling threats"

    Is a knee-trembler really suitable for children's television?

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Eyebrows that float

    Deeply brilliant concept, we know it's daft, they know it's daft, together as sentient beings we can both marvel at the simplicity and ridiculous nature of the animation while enjoying the humour.

    Sad to say V2.0 will probably introduce modern irrelevant distraction and “Bring it up to date”,

    Completely missing the point.

    I bet even the voices won't be a patch on the old ones.

    1. VinceH

      Re: Eyebrows that float

      Quite. Hearing Penfold say "Crikey D.M." in any voice other than Terry Scott's will just be wrong.

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