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Unionised civil servants at the MoJ have extended strike action over plans to outsource back office functions to a French integrator amid fears of wide-scale job cuts. As revealed first by us last month, members of the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union voted in favour of industrial level protests over the MoJ's …

  1. James 51

    "this change will save over £100m of public money in the next seven years."

    Why not strech it out to seventy years, then it would save £1b!

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Doublethink?

    "Public services ought to be free"

    "Our members face ... pay restraint"

    Surely if Mr Heyward believes public services should be free, the corollary is that his members should be working without getting paid at all?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Strange

    Privatisation is the government basically saying that they are so bad at managing a service that a private company can do the same work more cheaply and make a profit.

    Of course the reality, in my experience, is that the privatised service is of a lower standard and doesn't do what's needed. Meanwhile the government does its best to make sure there can be no comparisons with the previous service in the hope that nobody will notice.

  4. Otto is a bear.

    The reality is...

    Outsourced IT is governed by a contract that does exactly what the contract asks it to do, which is usually a lot less than the IT department. If you don't need much doing, staff reallocation is not your problem.

    An internal IT department is far more flexible because you don't need a contract change to do different, and there are always contractors.

    TUPE protects transferees up to a point, but ultimately, they get offered a new contract or are made redundant within a few years. The new contracts will be the same as every other employee of the outsourcer, who does the same job. There are some things that the new contracts can't take away, like length of service, but most things can be negotiated out, especially if the base of operations is moved to a new location, maybe 30 miles away, then it's accept the new contract, or statutory minimum redundancy.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: The reality is...

      Damn good points.

      Upvoted.

  5. ecofeco Silver badge

    The only thing worse than civil service operations is...

    ... privatized civil service operations.

    Trust me, seen this up close and personal and it was disaster all the way with the contracted company failing badly and not having the contract renewed and control and day to day ops reverting back to the government employees.

    The thing to remember is that bureaucracy is bureaucracy no matter who is doing it. At least there is "some" accountability with the government. You have to sue the private companies to get any redress of grievance.

    I'm not a big fan of fascism.

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