back to article Ghosts of Christmas Past: The long-ago geek gifts that made us what we are

It's fairly well accepted that events and things from our past help to make us the twisted, misanthropic people we are today. Or perhaps that's just Team Register. It being the season of festive excess, we wondered if there were perhaps some geeky gifts that, as a kid, helped you explore science, tech, and similar areas, and …

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  1. HKmk23

    Oh dear

    I had everyone of those at one time or another...............

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Oh dear

      Yup, same here. The Mamod Traction Engine, the micro-scope, the lego motor unit, mechano... *sighs*

      Children of today have no idea what they're missing out on.

      1. MrT

        Re: Oh dear

        Ditto, excet for the Mamod. However, my friend had the Rolls Royce car version, which I think was more an excuse for his dad to have it. Despite it all being high pressure steam and hotness, we both thought the ~30" extension to the steering column was a bit more on the lethal side of things.

        1. goldcd

          Indeed. Not thought about those in decades.

          I seem to remember my dad got a static one.

          And then mysteriously shortly afterwards, I got the traction engine (with log trailer) and my brother got the car (complete with strange steering thingie, you mentioned).

    2. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: Oh dear

      I still have my Mamod traction engine, and my nephews still played with the Lego 4.5v train when they visited, until very recently. They have Lego Technic of their own now, which I consider a positive result.

      I don't remember the Tandy electronics kit, but did have a very similar, if simpler, one that I remember as "Waddingtons"? Also an Edison light bulb kit, to make your own experimental bulbs.

      For those who regret the passing of such things, I did recently discover a Kickstarter project "Help Bring Back Quality Science Kits": https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165560377/help-bring-back-quality-science-kits-stem-educatio

    3. Andrew Moore

      Re: Oh dear

      well, nearly all- I didn't have the Sony radio or the Polaroid Swinger.

  2. Mike Taylor

    happy christmas

    The Lego motor just gave me a huge wave of nostalgia, thank you! Probably the best gift ever was a set of military meccano though, and I remember my nerdy brother firing up his stream engines in the garage. But no airfix? Loved making models - the Saturn v and the hovercraft both made it into my stocking on various occasions

  3. Admiral Grace Hopper

    Aw, thanks.

    That was a wonderful "Got, got, want, got, want ..."-esque trip back to a 70s childhood.

    I first saw Fischer Technik in Rackhams in Birmingham and yearned for it. This surely, was the future. Perhaps tellingly for a child of the metal-bashing Midlands I knew that Meccano was somewhat more appropriate. Oh, and Girl's World, obviously. With a chemistry set you could try to manufacture your own make up.

  4. Ketlan
    Happy

    Science Fair

    I used to run a Tandy store back in the seventies and those Science Fair kits used to sell like hot cakes in the run-up to Christmas. I think they went up to a 200-project kit, which was pretty expensive but would keep a future nerd quiet for weeks into the new year.

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Science Fair

      I remember getting my first Science Fair kit (or whatever name Tandy sold it under in the US): opened it on Christmas morning at my grandmother's house, and had a crystal radio working before dinner. Not sure how old I was - 9, maybe? The project instructions were excellent. I played with that kit for years, doing every project in the book and some I made up on my own. Only quit using it when I started soldering components to breadboards.

  5. Mike Bell

    Nice. My parents were as poor as church mice, but they managed to put most of these things my way at Christmas time. My nostalgia trip is complete when I think of the John Bull printing set, Space Hoppers, the Stylophone (fronted by a good guy) and the Chopper bike.

    1. Winkypop Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Chopper bike!!

      In my world, circa 1971, simply unobtainable!

      One kid at school was lucky enough to win one.

      The rest of us nearly died of jealousy.

      I still suffer....although not quite as much.

  6. Gordon 11

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    49.26m was 208 on SW.

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      Re: |

      Radio Luxembourg!

      1. Nigel Whitfield.

        Re: |

        Here's a nice collection of jingles from the "Station of the 80s" if you want a wallow in nostalgia

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icDdZg9qJDw

        I visited the Villa Louvigny once, and saw the 208 studio, with Mike Hollis.

        1. ecofeco Silver badge

          Re: |

          Great find Nigel! Thanks!

          1. MrT

            Top of the dial...

            ...on my cheap portable radio. Mostly I listened to the evening and late night shows, but remember the signal fading in and out all the time... still the best station in the late 70's and early to mid-80's

  7. -tim
    Happy

    Happy Christmas memories

    One of the best presents I ever received was a used 1950s Erector Set (like Mechano) when my father found his old sets in my Grandmother's attic. It had an A/C motor that plugged into the wall and was something like a 60W motor and enough torque to strip gears. It had so many more parts than the recent kit in a small plastic box. The old ones came in a huge steel cases.

    In 1975 I ended up with a Tyco HO train set that let me extend the old loop I had had for years. That lead me to wondering how make proper signals lights on track segments and lead me in to the wonderful world of logic gates.

    In the early 1980s I ended up with a Radio Shack CoCo and year later an Epson RX-80 printer. By the time the CoCo went into the dumpster, it was like Marvin the paranoid android, the only thing left was the diodes on the left side. The RX-80 still works.

    1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge

      Re: Happy Christmas memories

      I had one of those RX80's too, lasted until about 2 years ago.

      But thats when printers were built to make printer companies money and not act as loss leaders for their ink operations.

      I can tick off the lego motor, the meccano, the microscope,and a kit form ZX81

      The only one of those I really wanted was the chemistry kit, but then since I already had leaning in the being smart and far too clever for my own good department, mom and dad did'nt want me anywhere near it.

      Not that it ever stopped me for learning howto make explosives later in life (but thats another story )

    2. yoganmahew

      Re: Happy Christmas memories

      You'll see dot-matrix printers in constant use in airports round the world (in particular the Oki microline with roll-paper feed). My local doctor's surgery still uses an LX80 for backup for printing prescriptions for when the inkjets do their inevitable "er, WTF do you think I am, a printer?"...

      1. MrT

        Re: Happy Christmas memories

        My favourite dot-matrix was the Star LC24-10. Even got paid a nice wedge for a review I did for Sinclair QL World. 24-pin compared to 8/9-pin sound-wise was like comparing 5-cyl to v12, but none of them were exactly easy on the ear and more than a few back at the office were in acoustic enclosures. Cracking the ribbon casing and reinking the fabric was a messy job compared to refilling a cartridge, though, but it felt like more of a proper job when done.

  8. Efros

    Chemistry Sets

    A quick poll of our research lab a couple of decades ago yielded the fact that of the 20 chemists working there, not a single one of us had a chemistry set when we were kids. All of the males had possessed Meccano, most with Mamod steam engines and everyone, male and female, had owned fairly extensive lego sets.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Chemistry Sets

      So that's why I never became a chemist - all the other qualifications but I did get a chemistry set.

      1. Kriilin

        Re: Chemistry Sets

        Chemist (New World meaning) - been there, done that. Did a career change into IT, paid better. And I had a variation of most of those items, plus I grew up on a farm, most fortunate.

    2. goldcd

      In our IT/IT Services place

      We discovered that every one of us owned/loved techic lego.

      Suspect would be an excellent interview question.

      1) Did you have it?

      2) Tell us what you built, that wasn't on the box.

  9. heyrick Silver badge

    God I feel old now.

    That's all.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    My static Mamod steam engine was an expensive novelty. No doubt I had expressed a desire for one - but all you could do with it was fill it with water, light the meths burner - and watch the flywheel go round. I did add a rather useless "stamping press". My nephew dug it all out of his attic recently in a house move. It went to a local toy collectors' shop.

    He also found my Bayko building set - which would probably be considered dangerous these days with its matrix of fine metal rods on which to slide the bricks. You could construct buildings like Metroland suburbia - but nothing else.

    My Rovex "Princess Elisabeth" 00 gauge train set, or at least parts of it, are waiting for me to visit my sister next year. The "H0" observation car was a prized addition - and much time was spent building Airfix kits of stations, shops, and churches. The Airfix 1/72nd scale was a perfect match to add people and vehicles as well. Electric points and lights were something desired but never achieved. A friend had the much-prized Royal Mail carriage with its clever mailbag pick-up and dropping on the fly.

    One Christmas my father bought a wooden boxed Meccano set at an auction. IIRC a No2 set with lots of beautiful gears to make things like differential gears. A clockwork motor was added later. It was interesting recently to see the current prices of individual gear wheels on eBay.

    My father aspired to one of the new transistor radios - so he bought a kit from a newspaper advert "so simple a child can make it". Having failed to make it work it was left for me, age 13, to prove the advert correct. Instead of soldering there were 8ba nuts and bolts to join the wires together in a rats nest. Several years later - as the electronics bug bit - a matched pair of OC72 were added to give proper loudspeaker volume.

    Chemistry sets were common - but usually we went to the local chemist and bought the chemicals we wanted. They also sold thin glass tubes which our school chemistry lessons had taught us how to blow or stretch.

    Our astronomy lessons came from collecting the Brooke Bond tea cards on the subject. The night skies were less polluted then and most people seemed to know the prominent constellations.

    It is interesting how often our local charity shop has chemistry sets, electrical sets, telescopes, even Meccano kits - that have never been opened. With the recent proposals to remove practical work from "A" Level science subjects - the current generation seems to be being discouraged from any hands-on experimentation that looks like real engineering and science.

    At Christmas the ordinary toyshops no longer have window displays of Meccano ferris wheels with lights - and large scenic layouts of electric trains. In the 1950s austerity years of dim street gas lights and smoke-aided fog - the toyshop windows at Christmas were oases of magical light.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      "At Christmas the ordinary toyshops no longer have window displays of Meccano ferris wheels with lights - and large scenic layouts of electric trains. In the 1950s austerity years of dim street gas lights and smoke-aided fog - the toyshop windows at Christmas were oases of magical light."

      Yes they were. *sigh*

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "the toyshop windows at Christmas were oases of magical light."

      As a child in late 60's we had a family trip to Joplings (now gone) in Sunderland and Fenwicks in Newcastle, at least twice to each, to see the amazing windows displays and to visit the toy departments where there were toys out for kids to play with, model train layouts complete with scenery, Lego building competitions, painting competitions, Scalextric racing competitions and more.

      The Fenwicks windows displays of animated scenes still happen but none of the rest of it.

      As for the featured toys, yes, I had the Tandy Science Fair 100-in-one electronics kits, a Salters chemistry kit, the Lego motor kits (and LOTS of Lego!!) and Mechano. By the time the ZX80 came out I was just starting my first part-time job, still at school, and was able to save up for a "proper" computer, a Video Genie, a Hong Kong copy of the TRS-80.

      1. MrT

        Fenwicks...

        ...Alice in Wonderland this year - nice display, and despite working hereabouts for a good few years it wws the first time I'd seen it in person. Although one of my colleagues with me at the time mentioned it looks the same as a couple of years ago. Stands out compared to the tacky displays around it near Eldon Square.

    3. Allan George Dyer

      There were possibilities...

      I did manage to convert the Mamod static engine to mobile, with meccano wheels, clutch and gearbox, with rack-and-pinion steering. It moved, oh so slowly.

    4. Kubla Cant

      Building set

      One Christmas I was given a Brickplayer set.

      As the Wikipedia article says: "The sets comprised baseboards, terracotta bricks and lintels, plastic door and window frames, card doors and roofing. The bricks were about 1 inch long in scale proportion to regular house bricks. Building plans were accurate architect's blue prints."

      Using it was just as much fun as being a real bricklayer. I think I only built a bus shelter before becoming bored.

  11. DJV Silver badge

    Blue and Yellow Meccano

    Sigh. Thanks for making me feel even older. Mine was the green and red version from the 60s. I remember getting highly frustrated trying fit one particular nut onto a bolt. It was only when I peered inside the nut that I saw it hadn't actually had the thread cut into it!

    1. Martin-73 Silver badge

      Re: Blue and Yellow Meccano

      I had a mix, had mostly blue/yellow but with a few hand-me-down bits from green/red sets, and some possibly even older.

      Those nuts must have been fairly common, I came across 2 like that.

      I suspect the kit is still in the attic somewhere... *sigh*

    2. Wensleydale Cheese
      Happy

      Re: Blue and Yellow Meccano

      "Mine was the green and red version from the 60s."

      I started out with the red and green version. One day my parents came and asked me if I sucked the parts. Sensing their apprehension I answered "No", but in fact I did suck them..

      The red and green paints had lead in them apparently. Obviously not in lethal quantities or I wouldn't be writing this. My younger brother's Meccano came in yellow and silver, which made it easy to tell which bits belonged to whose set.

      1. Dick

        Re: Blue and Yellow Meccano

        Leaded red and green for me, had all the gear sets too :)

  12. GrumpenKraut
    Pint

    The frog dilemma

    Had a similar microscope set, one that included a frog. Never brought it over me to dissect the frog. Many many years later I decided to discarded the jar with the frog. Felt sorry for the poor frog.

    On the bright side I learned to appreciate the nice smell of formaldehyde.

    Beer because it contains another much appreciated substance.

  13. Unicornpiss
    Mushroom

    Nostalgia...

    I had the "Erector Set" with motor and gearbox--a little different than the one shown, a microscope, Legos... but my favourite was the Tandy 150-in-1 Electronics Project kit. I had a ball with that and it led to me getting a (underutilized since I went into IT) degree in electronics.

    ...Mushroom cloud icon in honor of the chemistry set :)

  14. Neil 44

    ICF7600D

    Mine is still on the bedside and I use it most days - albeit mostly just on FM...

    Remember having it in Greece on holiday and listening to the BBC reports on the death of Princess Diana on shortwave

    1. Gannettt

      Re: ICF7600D

      I had one of those too. Worked great. I lived in Finland for 9 months and took it with me - didn't have a Euro mains adapter for it, and the thing just gobbled AA batteries! Still worth it for listening to just a Minute on World Service or the radio hams on SSB!

      I recently came across what was probably a top-of-the-range SW tuner in its day at a second-hand shop and bought it on impulse. Let's just say the HF bands aren't what they used to be. Rather sad, really.

      1. Adrian 4

        Re: ICF7600D

        The Sony looks a bit modern for that era - I remember the Grundig World Boy or somesuch as the state of the art.

        I mostly got thrown-out valve radios with about 10 bands though. Lots of late-night listening with glowing dials.

  15. Martin Gregorie

    You left out flying models

    I too had a Mamod stationary steam engine but, as others have said, once you're run it a few times and you found out that you couldn't really do anything with much with it except watch it run, it got boring. I got much more fun from the clockwork Magic Motor that came with a red and green Meccano No 6 set and let me make tanks and tractors that actually worked.

    However, the thing that really got my interest going in designing and building things that could be made to work was model aircraft. Almost every kid I knew at the time made and flew models at some point. Initially control-line models were the thing to have because you could fly them anywhere there was a grass patch 50m square and you couldn't lose them. The favourites among my friends were either a Keilcraft Phantom kit with a Mills 1.3 diesel up front or a Veron Beebug with the smaller Mills 0.75 diesel pulling it. Building and flying them taught you a lot, from operating the engines without getting your fingers hit, through building (and later repairing) the models to eventually learning how to fly them without crashing.

    Then, a few years later, the excellent Cox TeeDee glowplug motors appeared - such wonderful precision engineering that running them in consisted of running the engine rich for 30 seconds and then leaning it out and hearing that lovely scream.

    1. Triggerfish

      Re: You left out flying models

      Remember those balsa jobs where you had to assemble all the ribs and spars cover it in tissue paper and dope it.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: You left out flying models

        ...and then crash it into a tree, rinse and repeat. After the third time I decided this was a mug's game.

        1. Zog_but_not_the_first
          Mushroom

          Re: You left out flying models

          Strap on a Jetex motor first!

        2. Nick Pettefar

          Re: You left out flying models

          I'm doing it all over again with my Parrot Drone 2. It has lost a number of parts, broken others and has been adapted and customised a bit. I spend half the time, at least, trying to find it after it goes off on an unscheduled autonymous flight. Wellies are good in the winter for trekking across waterlogged fields and meadows looking for the damn thing. I must be making up for not having an RC aeroplane in my childhood.

      2. Graham Marsden
        Thumb Up

        @Triggerfish - Re: You left out flying models

        > Remember those balsa jobs where you had to assemble all the ribs and spars cover it in tissue paper and dope it.

        Wow, that brings back memories of going into The Model Airport in Bristol and looking enviously at the massive 6' wingspan remote control gliders they had hanging up!

        Alas I never got one of those, but I did have one (a KielKraft Conquest) which was a tow-line glider with a 30" wingspan. We had a golf course behind our house in Long Ashton which was virtually unused during the week, so in the holidays I'd take it up there and launch it down the fairways :-)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: You left out flying models

      Our 1960s school after-hours Hobby Club would always echo to the sounds of Frog engines. Convened in the Junior Woodwork room the engines would be clamped in a vice. There was the constant put-put as owners coaxed their propeller with a sore finger - occasionally followed by a full throated whine and the sweet smell of ether exhaust gases. Now there is a Proustian madeleine moment.

      Glo-plugs were usually reserved for the R/C boat people - who actually sailed their boats on any one of the local park lakes.

      One affluent pal had a Jetex engine. It was once put into an Airfix model Lanchester car - which achieved a single terminal flight without wings.

      The woodwork teacher found me a balsa glider kit that someone had not assembled. I remember its dihedral wings - and the final taut doped red paper skin. I suspect now that he may actually have bought the kit especially to cater for poorer pupils like myself. It was a great regret at a recent school reunion to hear he had died relatively young - and I could not express my gratitude for the interest he had taken in widening my practical skills beyond my fascination with books.

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: You left out flying models

        "The woodwork teacher found me a balsa glider kit that someone had not assembled. I remember its dihedral wings - and the final taut doped red paper skin. I suspect now that he may actually have bought the kit especially to cater for poorer pupils like myself."

        I had several of those balsa/doped gliders and I really enjoyed building them, hence the reason I have always had scalpel knifes kicking around (mother was a nurse so scalpel blades were common). Up until today and reading the above comment, 35 years on, I never realised that they were for the poorer kids, which I was without knowing it at the time. It's kinda funny but I now realise that my parents actually made sacrifices to buy me those gliders.... I never lost my desire to build things like this...

        1. goldcd

          I had a few of those

          some gliders, some with fairy-liquid soaked rubber band props for "take off".

          I never like airfix, I never dabbled with more complex RC - but I loved those balsa-covered-in-paper machines.

          I think it was the sense of 'building' you'd get. Small box. Simple stack of balsa sheets and ribbon struts (plus paper, bit of wire and a prop) - and if you put the time in, you made something incontrovertibly 3D and 'real' out of it.

          Maybe it's the madelin-tinged-memory of sniffing those doping chemicals - but I'm not off to see if they're still available.

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