back to article UK.gov tempts SMEs with tasty framework, then slaps them in face

Central government is breaking its own commitment to increase procurement from SMEs by squeezing small businesses out of its existing frameworks for "digital services." A number of small businesses have complained that the set-up of the latest version of the Digital Services framework amounts to a recruitment "body-shopping" …

  1. dogged

    it’s a shame SME procurement still hasn’t been fixed

    SMEs don't pay big enough bribes.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yep

      Currently doing a quote for public sector for software licences. I'm 20% cheaper. Bet I don't get the deal - it'll be someone's mate.

  2. leon clarke

    84% of SMEs on the framework?

    Presumably that's 84% of SMEs interested in selling digital services to the government that the government knows about. Or maybe 84% of SMEs who have previously sold digital services to the government. It clearly isn't 84% of SMEs since most SMEs don't provide digital services. It probably isn't 84% of companies that provide 'digital services' as I can't imagine there's an accurate list of them.

    So it sounds like the statistics are being assembled in a way that lets the civil service ignore any company that thinks working for the government is a PITA.

    1. manarth

      Re: 84% of SMEs on the framework?

      "in a way that lets the civil service ignore any company that thinks working for the government is a PITA"

      IME, working for the government *is* a PITA. Much more-so than private sector. Charge (and detail the contract spec, and project-manage) accordingly.

  3. bencurthoys

    We just failed to make the shortlist for a tender we'd been working on for over a year.

    We started off by being recommended by another local authority to our potential customer. We went in a did a demo. We established that they liked our product better than their current one, and all the other ones on the market they'd seen. We were cheaper than everyone else too. Then they started on a tender process that I'm sure cost more in admin time than the total value of the contract, and finally the person who would actually be using the software was told that they couldn't choose, because we weren't a big enough company to be permitted to do business with the government.

    Details available on request. It's not just that I'm pissed off with losing the work, though that smarts - it would have been a big deal for us and we'd have been able to do it really well, It's the combination of that with the empty lies that central government tells about encouraging SMEs that really gets my goat.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Govt nonsense

    Govt and public sector don't want SME's.

    They want the ideas from SME's but would like to give them to the primes. They like the idea of cheap SME's. But its not in any public sector procurers interest to buy cheaper - the more they spend, the bigger the promotion and their wages.

    They want to procure from nice big safe expensive consultancies where they wont get fired when it goes wrong and get meetings in nice glass fronted offices..

    DSTL, Home Office, GCHQ, MoD - seen it, been there, done the presentation, had the nods, beaten the opposition but didnt get the cheque.

  5. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

    The bidding process itself is enough to put most SMEs off.

    The time and the cost is just not something that a company that does not turn over millions can risk without some expectation that they could get the contract.

  6. Matt Quinn

    Peter Gathercole wrote...

    "The time and the cost is just not something that a company that does not turn over millions can risk without some expectation that they could get the contract."

    Technically your business is not recognisesd (by the government) as 'small' until it turns over £1.6M - 96% of all UK businesses don't of course and are thus completely invisible to government. When you hear politicos talking about "small business" and you imagine 'ooh! they mean me" - Noooooooo... Not by a very long chalk!

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