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Sir Terry Pratchett has left us at the age of 66, but he has gifted the next generation a massive archive of fiction and non-fiction that will delight, amuse and inform readers for years to come. It's a sad day at the El Reg offices, many of us were devoted fans. He was born on April 28, 1948, and wrote fiction as a teen. At …

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  1. Smitty Werbenjaegermanjensen - he was #1!
    Unhappy

    Sad

    And I'm not ashamed to say that I may have shed a tear for Terry when I read the news.

    1. TonyJ

      Re: Sad

      Which soulless wretch downvoted this post?

      There are some really nice people on el reg lately.

      1. Robert Baker
        Flame

        Re: Sad

        To my mind, the votes here have become meaningless due to abuse; for instance, why downvote a joke post?

  2. Trollslayer

    I can hear it now

    "I THINK YOU FORGOT TO CANCEL THE MILK."

    1. James Anderson

      Re: I can hear it now

      YOU CAN STOP WRITING I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR IN ANY MORE BOOKS

  3. David Webb

    Sadly missed

    I will miss waiting on this next instalment of his books. However, he appears to have completed a Discworld novel in 2014....

    He completed his last book, a new Discworld novel, in the summer of 2014, before succumbing to the final stages of the disease. http://www.pjsmprints.com/

    So it looks like we have one final book to come from him, just think, a Discoworld novel that will not be signed by the great man.

    1. frank ly

      Re: Sadly missed

      From Wikipedia and other sources, it appears that the book completed last year is called The Shepherd's Crown and is part (the last) of the Tiffany Aching arc of books. (Publication date seems to be July, or autumn, 2015.) These books are set in the Discworld and were intended for a 'young adult' audience. Personally, as a quite old adult, I found 'I Shall Wear Midnight' to be a very mature story, wonderfully told.

      I'll be buying it as soon as it becomes available.

      1. David Webb

        Re: Sadly missed

        Same, I love the TA arc, would have been lovely to see her grow up to be a witch like Granny, but it will be rather unsettling to read the last words of that book knowing there will be no more.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Sadly missed

          TA is a wonderful series and I have, as a 40 something year old, enjoyed them immensely. As has my ten year old daughter.

          I will shed a tear if I finish the book as I did when I heard the news but I'm mulling over the idea of buying it and keeping it, unread, on a shelf, so there's always one more book

          1. Proud Father

            Re: Sadly missed

            "I will shed a tear if I finish the book as I did when I heard the news but I'm mulling over the idea of buying it and keeping it, unread, on a shelf, so there's always one more book"

            How wonderfully put, thank you.

            I have also shed tears today. I am hurting.

          2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
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            Re: Sadly missed

            "I will shed a tear if I finish the book as I did when I heard the news but I'm mulling over the idea of buying it and keeping it, unread, on a shelf, so there's always one more book"

            Such a wonderful thought. Something I shall also consider.

    2. Colin Miller

      Re: Sadly missed

      The Long Utopia, co-authored with Stephen Baxter, is due for release in the middle of June.

  4. IglooDude
    Pint

    Many a pint will be hoisted in Sir Terry's memory, for all the brilliant writing he's given us over the years.

    1. Vulch

      Indeed

      https://www.facebook.com/events/923034381060640/

  5. David Given

    He was also an early Internet and social media adoptee, back when it was called Usenet, and spent a lot of time chatting with fans on alt.fan.pratchett.

    Also, don't forget his rather more obscure science fiction: _The Dark Side of the Sky_ and _Strata_. I like them both a great deal and they're a lot more thoughtful than they first appear. (The latter features the first appearance of a science-fictional proto-discworld; alas, it also features a ubiquitous typo throughout where it uses 'altitude jets' instead of 'attitude jets'.)

    Also, fun fact: _The Colour of Magic_ is a straight Fritz Leiber parody, right down to the structure. Watch for Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser's cameo in the first chapter!

    1. Trygve Henriksen

      I assume you meant 'Dark side of the Sun'.

      Tonight, I will brew a pot of Yorkshire Gold tea, and re-read Strata.

      The Colour of Magic is a good book, and a great spoof of Fritz Leiber's work, but sadly, less of a Discworld book than Strata. (In my not so humble opinion)

      1. David Given

        You're quite right. Dark Side of the Sun. Bad fingers, they don't know how to type.

    2. Triggerfish

      Colour of Magic introduced me to Fritz Leiber when I saw learnt what characters he was referencing, I'll always have to thank him for that.

    3. Alien8n

      It was through afp that I got to know him personally, he was always willing to chat with his fans. I have a signed photo of him from the convention in '96 holding the Podling (aged 3 months) which he duly signed "I don't sign small children". This was an in joke as the saying went that he'd sign "anything except a blank cheque, but even that was arguable" and behind me was another fellow afper with a pen for him to sign my daughter with. My only regret in life is turning down the offer to go for a curry with him when I had the chance.

      1. David Given

        Wasn't there an old afp joke...

        "For sale: Terry Pratchett novel --- rare, unsigned edition!"

  6. Nick Ryan Silver badge
    IT Angle

    IT angle? Who cares! I suppose there were the tweets though.

    He annoyed other authors with his writing style but succeeded at being a greater author than most of his detractors because what he wrote was fun to read, often clever and insightful on many levels.

    1. BoldMan

      I remember Tom Paulin reviewing Terry Pratchett on The Review Show many years ago:

      A complete amateur... doesn't even write in chapters.

      which has since appeared on many Discworld covers :)

      1. SteveastroUk

        Who the hell is Tom Paulin......

        <rummages on Wikipedia>

        Oh yes, a complete dick head.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I remember them discussing a book (Interesting Times, I think). Mark Lawson and Mark Kermode or Tony Parsons (I can't remember which) thought it was funny, and Tom Paulin and Allison Pearson didn't. No surprise on the split of the panel. (However, when Mark Lawson referred to Truckle the Uncivil's walking sticks that said LOVE and HATE, Allison Pearson laughed and Kermode/Parsons called her out on it, implying that she just wouldn't admit that she found it funny.). I remember Allison Pearson complaining about the cliched language structure Pratchett used, missing the whole point that he was writing about a bunch of old heroes so would have been parodying fantasy prose.

        Anyway, I enjoyed Discworld as a teenager and young adult, and the reason I stopped reading them was because I stopped reading fiction.

        Woof.

        1. Spiracle

          Allison Pearson complaining about the cliched language structure Pratchett used, missing the whole point that he was writing about a bunch of old heroes so would have been parodying fantasy prose...

          To be fair the junction in the Venn diagram of Interesting Times and I Don't Know How She Does It readers is probably fairly slim.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            The IT angle is simple. Hex.

            That man knew what he was talking about.

            1. RyokuMas
              Happy

              "Anthill inside"

              Ah Hex... full of ants and still faster than my mother-in-law's old Vista box...

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: "Anthill inside"

                ...Reminds me of the discworld character who was going around selling some mysterious thing called 'in-sewer-ants'. As a teenager in the '80s it took a while for the meaning of this to dawn on me ...

                1. BoldMan

                  Re: "Anthill inside"

                  and don't forget Twoflower's introduction of the concept of "reflected sound of underground spirits" :)

                2. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

                  Re: "Anthill inside"

                  Got that t-shirt, will wear it with more pride. It generally takes my CS students a little while to realise I am not wearing a T-shirt with an Intel ad.

                  What I will miss most about Terry Pratchett is the warmth and love of humanity with all its shortcomings that oozes from all his work. The one thing that really offended him is "treating people like things". He was a wonderful man with an unparallelled talent

                  1. TRT Silver badge

                    Re: "Anthill inside"

                    I liked the practicality of his mind. The ninja getting tooled up in Pyramids - weighted himself up so badly with so much gear that he fell over backwards. Never seems to be a problem in the fantasy genre, that you carry so much gear you can't move.

                    And then there's the communications Clacks.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            @Spiracle

            Also, Oxfam bookshops are full of old Booker prize winners that look as if they have never been opened: Terry Pratchett, Jacqueline Wilson, not so much.

            Sadly, authors who don't actually have anything to say seem to spend the most time praising themselves and their friends for the way they say it.

      3. Proud Father

        Lol that review always made me laugh.

        If I remember correctly, that review excerpt was on some of the hardback covers.

        Brilliant use of Tom Paulin's moronic book review.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "He annoyed other authors with his writing style"

      He annoyed English teachers because they wanted pupils to learn through the "established" canon of authors and he gleefully adopted and adapted all the canons. It must be no fun to try to explain postmodernism or magical realism to a class when a couple of boys at the back are muttering "Terry Pratchett".

      1. Dazed and Confused

        Re: "He annoyed other authors with his writing style"

        > He annoyed English teachers

        He both annoyed and delighted English teachers because after years of their efforts boys (perhaps more than girls) would discover Pratchett and suddenly start to read.

      2. D@v3

        Re: "He annoyed English teachers"

        I was put onto Pratchett by an English Teacher, not my own, a friend who just happened to to go on to become one, and I am glad that I was.

        Now, where did I leave my frog pills.....

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Re: "He annoyed English teachers"

          To understand half of his jokes you had to deconstruct words and understand the etymology of the components. Sheer genius. For example, the thaumometer.

  7. horsham_sparky

    RIP Terry

    I'll be hoisting a pint of Turbot's Really Odd in your memory

    Have been a fan since university days when I was lucky enough you meet you at a book signing at the Uni bookshop..

    Say Hi to Albert, Death, Susan and the death of Rats for us :-)

  8. Slartybardfast

    I'm 54 year old man who has never met Sir Terry but feels like he knew him. I've had a couple of tears in my eyes today. Daft really, but I'll miss him.

    I shall wear the Lilac in remembrance

  9. A. Coatsworth Silver badge

    I've heard the names of Terry Pratchett and Discworld before, but I've never read any of the books...

    After reading the dozens of loving comments left by commenters it the notes published by El Reg, I really want to get in the Discworld... er... world.

    I'd really appreciate tips or comments on what would be the best approach to Sir Terry's work

    1. horsham_sparky

      Start at the beginning, the colour of Magic :-) it sets the tone for the rest of his books really. you don't have to read them in order, each book is a good read in isolation.. but you get to know the characters and the history if you do go in order though

      1. Martin

        Hmmm...

        I would actually NOT recommend starting with The Colour of Magic. My justification for this is that it's the only one I've read, and it just didn't do anything for me. I've said this to many Terry Pratchett fans and they have all, to a man (or woman), said "Well, it's actually not particularly good compared to the later ones. Perhaps you should try one of the others." Small Gods certainly came up as a recommendation.

        I've never got round to trying one of the others. Perhaps I will now.

        1. stuartnz

          Re: Hmmm...

          Small Gods is still my favourite. The least laugh out loud funny for me, but the most thoughtful and interesting.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Hmmm...

          "I would actually NOT recommend starting with The Colour of Magic"

          Completely agree. It's interesting watching someone start to develop a idea and a style, but it isn't in the same class as the later books. Reading it put me off completely until I was staying in someone's house in wet weather and read Equal Rites and Pyramids, and then started to seek out the rest.

    2. David 132 Silver badge

      Welcome.

      All of the below is IMHO, and I'm sure everyone here will have their own thoughts...

      I'd probably start with one of his Discworld books. Although they feature recurring characters and in-jokes, this doesn't mean you have to start with the very first. His style of writing and humour changed slightly over the years, meaning that some of the later books are much funnier than the very earliest ones.

      Two "best book to read first" suggestions would be "Guards, Guards!" (introduces the hard-bitten, cynical misanthrope night watchman Sam Vimes) or "Witches Abroad" (which (ahaha) introduces the witches Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg and Magrat Garlick).

      My favourite of all time is the non-Discworld "Good Omens", which as TFA mentions was a collaboration with Neil Gaiman. An angel and a demon collaborate to prevent the Apocalypse, involving the M25, black nuns, paintballing, a Satanic Hellhound who likes to chase cats, and various "Americans and other aliens".

      RIP Sir Pterry. We met only once, at a book-signing in Chester, and my pimply 20-something self was so over-awed to meet one of my literary heroes that I stuttered incoherently and made a fool of myself.

      1. David Given

        I probably *wouldn't* start with _Colour of Magic_. It's rather different from the rest of the series, being a Fritz Leiber parody, and his style only starts to gel a few books later on.

        My recommendations? _Small Gods_, which a minister once described to me as the best book about religion he'd ever read. _Pyramids_, which is about fate, belief (not the same as religion!) and camels. _Mort_, about growing up, death, and Death.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Up vote for Small Gods

          First book I'd read for a good while, and had been in a grey state; I actually laughed out loud at the tortoise's persuasion technique with the eagle. Read his work avidly ever since.

        2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Small Gods is the best literature

          Pyramids is my personal favourite

          Colour of Magic/Light fantastic - good, but you probably have to be a fantasy fan to get all the jokes

          The guards books (Guards Guards / Feet of Clay / Men at Arms ) and the Von Lipwig (Going Postal / Making Money / Raising Steam) are probably most readable stories

          The only dissapointing book is Monstrous Regiment.

          1. BoldMan

            Witches Abroad is also the book with the marvellous "Glod" footnote. Remember reading that in Selfridges bookstore before I bought it and burst out laughing in the middle of a busy shop!

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Actually that's one of my favourites - although different from many others.

            All good books however! I think everyone will have their own favourite.

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