back to article Utah declares 'war on smut'

The US state of Utah is trying a different approach to its long-standing campaign against online smut, passing a resolution that says pornography is a “public health emergency”. The rationale for the bill, according to its main provisions, is that “pornography is a public health hazard leading to a broad spectrum of individual …

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  1. joeW

    "War on Smut"

    Fantastic idea. It'll be just like that time there was a "War on Drugs", and now there's no drugs anywhere.

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: "War on Smut"

      Don't forget the War on Terrorism. Look at how that's made the world a much safer place!

    2. Andy Non Silver badge

      Re: "War on Smut"

      Not forgetting how successful prohibition was too.

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        It's a case of "if at first you don't succeed . . . "

        Except here they're trying to move a mountain - with a toothpick.

      2. Version 1.0 Silver badge

        Re: "War on Smut"

        You are all forgetting Lyndon B. Johnson's "War on Poverty" - but that's Utah I guess, it's OK to have two or three wives so long as you don't screw them all at the same time?

    3. BlartVersenwaldIII
      Alert

      Re: "War on Smut"

      Hopefully some politico will soon issue a War On Common Sense. We need more of it and that seems like a surefire way.

      1. Anonymous Custard

        Re: "War on Smut"

        Hopefully some politico will soon issue a War On Common Sense. We need more of it and that seems like a surefire way.

        Unfortunately you'd have to find it first, which may well be the tricky part...

        1. Captain DaFt

          Re: "War on Smut"

          "Hopefully some politico will soon issue a War On Common Sense. We need more of it and that seems like a surefire way."

          "Unfortunately you'd have to find it first, which may well be the tricky part..."

          How did something so uncommon get named common sense, anyway?

          1. Trigonoceps occipitalis

            Re: "War on Smut"

            "Common sense" uses the same meaning as common law. It is the sense that is shared between the population, area etc. There is no reason why common sense can't be rare, first find the sense then see what parts are common between entities. "Common" in this sense does not imply universal.

            PS. Common sense is not equal to crown sense.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        War on common sense

        Watching the election coverage here in the US, I'm pretty certain that all four major candidates have been actively waging - and winning - a war against common sense for quite some time!

      3. Bill B

        Re: "War on Smut"

        Hopefully some politico will soon issue a War On Common Sense. We need more of it and that seems like a surefire way.

        I thought that was what that nice Mr Trump was doing?

    4. dan1980

      Re: "War on Smut"

      It's similar to the 'war on drugs' as, in a way, it's really just pointing a finger and saying: "this is the reason for our problems" and then using it as a political football.

      The dissimilarity, however, is that there is hard data to back up the addictive nature of many illegal narcotics (not all) and the associated negative impacts to society but no well-supported evidence of 'addiction' to pornography being a real thing, even less so of consumption of pornography (whether casually or routinely) being detrimental to society as a whole.

      Whenever the issue is raised, the question is how to correct the 'harm' rather than whether there is, actually, any harm. And that's because the people who push these issues already assume that there is harm and they do so because it accords with their ideological, and often religious, beliefs. So what 'evidence' and 'studies' they seek out (or have brought to them by lobbyists) are those which confirm their pre-existing opinions.

      Of course, this happens all the time in politics - an issue is taken to be self-evidently true so that politicians can get right in there with strong words and policies to 'get tough' while simultaneously accusing those who call for a more measured and fact-based approach as being ogres who support whatever harm is being alleged.

      Oppose vague, unrestricted new powers of surveillance and privacy invasion? Well then you are supporting terrorists/pedophiles/rapists/drug dealers/etc . . .

      It's just so much easier to assert that a problem exists and that it is as Big Problem™ than it is to find out what are really worth spending effort and public money on. The unfortunate thing is that the public tends to just accept that and prefer the sound of a politician calling for action than one calling for understanding.

  2. wolfetone Silver badge

    To coin a phrase from South Park:

    "We have to look at porn, otherwise we'll get divorced".

    1. Richard Wharram

      Japanese Fart Porn?

      1. Dan 55 Silver badge
        WTF?

        Is that a thing?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Erm....

          Yes... Some weird stuff on the t'internet. somebody should ban it.

          1. Peter Simpson 1
            Facepalm

            Re: Erm....

            When I'm referencing The Internet (I will continue to capitalize it) in conversation, as a source of information, I always use the phrase "in between the kiddie porn and the bomb-making instructions"

            Point being, there's all kinds of stuff out there in the "tubes". Some of it is lowest-common-denominator stuff, but there's also scientific literature, user manuals for equipment whose manufacturers have long since shut down, and great literature. It all depends what you're looking for. And yes, there's porn, and there always will be. You don't have to look at it if you don't want to.

            1. Gordon 10

              Re: Erm....

              Rule 34 if something is on the internet there is pr0n about it.

              See also the Charlie Stross novel of the same name.

        2. wolfetone Silver badge

          "Is that a thing?"

          Everything is a thing. Just go on one of the reputable pornography sites and see all the weird and wonderful perversions people have.

          My own genre, plasticine porn, has yet to gain popularity though.

          1. ratfox
            Angel

            I enjoy scenery porn myself.

            1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

              I enjoy scenery porn myself.

              When is El Reg going to restart its cable connector porn articles? I remember the halcyon days of saucy RJ45 pics, along with the occasional gender changer for those who are into that sort of thing.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              My wife has become addicted to cake porn

              It's seriously affecting our life together. I think she's now much more interested in cake than sex :-(

              Still it's better than her other kink, a while ago she was watching a TV program about Windsor Castle and became quite interested on "Castle Porn" but we can't afford a castle.

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Plasticine porm..

            Careful it'll Morph into something more serious...

            1. wolfetone Silver badge
              Coat

              Re: Plasticine porm..

              "Careful it'll Morph into something more serious..."

              I cine what you did there...

          3. Ken Hagan Gold badge

            "Just go on one of the reputable pornography sites"

            Ha ha ha. I see what you did there.

          4. Bibbit

            Thanks for that...

            Just had images of Morph and Chas getting it on.

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        4. senrik1

          Rule 34 ... that is all.

      2. David Neil

        Rule 34

        "If it exists, there is porn of it – no exceptions"

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The legislature is also concerned that watching naughty vids “is linked to lessening desire in young men to marry

    Because wanting a quick fuck is such a wonderful basis for a happy marriage.

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    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The legislature is also concerned that watching naughty vids “is linked to lessening desire in young men to marry

      The young men that I've discussed this with aren't keen to marry because the majority of marriages end in divorce. Most of them are afraid that in a divorce they'd lose pretty much everything. If there are kids involved it's worse, they see fathers being expected to pay maintenance and having little or no access to their kids. If you want to make young men keener on marriage you need to make marriage a more attractive proposition to them.

      (oh and for balance I know some women who've lost big time in divorces too)

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      2. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

        Outdated concept for some

        The legislature is also concerned that watching naughty vids “is linked to lessening desire in young men to marry, dissatisfaction in marriage, and infidelity”.

        Well that's one obviously biased and flawed take on it. A contrasting, and probably equally guessed opinion is just that marriage is becoming irrelevant to many people, and the reasons go a lot deeper than just pron.

        Hey Utah! Society's changing, and if you don't like that you need to look at the broader picture rather than just "porn is bad".

        1. Eddy Ito

          Re: Outdated concept for some

          Wait. I don't understand. I thought the whole Kitchen v. Herbert thing meant that young men could marry each other all they wanted. First the state passes a law banning young men from marrying and now they blame porn when young men don't. It's all very confusing.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        The problem with marriage is simple

        Half of all marriages end in divorce. The rest end in death. I don't like the odds

        1. Mikel

          Re: The problem with marriage is simple

          >Half of all marriages end in divorce. The rest end in death. I don't like the odds

          Once you've married your view will change. You'll pray for one or the other.

  4. jay margo

    Seriously though,

    I found this article very difficult to fap to.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Seriously though,

      Yeah, I know. The one article where a 'hero photo' at the top would have been a good thing.

    2. Sebastian A

      Re: Seriously though,

      But not impossible...

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I thought they tried that before

    There was an interesting documentary where a local group tried to shut down a video shop in Utah for renting out smut. One of the key arguments in the trial was what is the "standard" for public decency and does the shop violate it.

    So for the trial they got the payperview stats from cable and sat networks on porn in Utah. The lawyer team for the shop had no clue what the numbers will be until they came through. They showed the highest consumption of pornography in the USA and one of the highest rates in the world. If memory serves me right, it was something like an hour of paid porn per household per day on average. Utah has 700K households or thereabouts - that equates to about a quarter of a billion per year in revenues.

    1. Richard Wharram

      Re: I thought they tried that before

      Stigmatising sex before marriage will lead to an increase in faps. Simple.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I thought they tried that before

        Look on the bright side: less Mormons.

        1. JeffyPoooh
          Pint

          Re: I thought they tried that before

          AC: "Look on the bright side: less Mormons."

          You mean, "fewer".

    2. Peter Simpson 1

      Re: I thought they tried that before

      ...something like an hour of paid porn per household per day on average. Utah has 700K households or thereabouts - that equates to about a quarter of a billion per year in revenues.

      Can we get that in Reg units?

      knuckle shuffles per capita-hour?

      swimming pools of...erm..."discharge"?

      // open for suggestions here

      // seems like too good an opportunity to let it pass by

    3. goodjudge

      Re: I thought they tried that before

      I've visited Utah. There's sweet FA to do there apart from look at scenery - which, whilst it is stunningly beautiful, doesn't help the long winter evenings fly by. And alcohol is banned in at least half the state too (or was when I was there). So, hardly surprising they turn en masse to, erm, online scenery.

      1. Richard Wharram

        Re: I thought they tried that before

        True. I used to work with someone whose permanent home was Salt Lake City and he told me there really is nothing to do.

        He didn't further elaborate along the lines of, "except wanking of course", but I read between the lines.

        1. veti Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: I thought they tried that before

          How do you think the lake got so salty?

  6. King Jack
    Trollface

    Foolishness

    The only way to win a war against natural human urges, is to alter them. I expect they'll be handing out oestrogen tablets to all males over the age of 11.... But what will happen when they grow breasts? Shit! back to the drawing board.

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

      Re: Foolishness

      Adults seem to forget what it was like during puberty, with hormones raging through their bodies.

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