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Microsoft announced the release of Windows Server 2016 and System Center 2016 at its Ignite event in Atlanta. The commercially supported edition of the Docker engine is included at no extra cost. Server 2016 and System Center 2016 are available for download this week and will be on sale from October 1 2016. A key feature of …

  1. ZSn

    Relevant

    I know that there are plenty of Microsoft only shops around, but surely it would be simpler/cheaper to spin up a debian/centos server and do the docker on that natively, or are I missing something important?

    1. Mage Silver badge
      Linux

      Re: Relevant

      Is an MS Server relevant at all since 2003, unless you want Exchange and Sharepoint etc?

      I installed plenty 1994 to 2004. After that only flavours of Linux. (In 1980s it was Cromix, VAX etc)

      You can get more expert support at same price if you are not expert enough yourself for RedHat/CentOS or Debian etc.

      What ever about the arguments about the Desktop, aren't we 10 years past EOL for Windows Servers unless you are determined to inflict Exchange and Sharepoint on people (There are better free Mail Servers and CMS, though Calendar/Scheduling is separate, as it should be, Outlook / Exchange concept [of combined mail & schedule] is evil and designed to lock people into MS

    2. Anonymous Curd

      Re: Relevant

      "...surely it would be simpler/cheaper to spin up a debian/centos server... "

      Only if you're looking at the list price for the license. If you're a windows shop and you're suddenly asking your admins to learn a whole new platform and ecosystem, things get expensive quickly. In any case the correct comparison is MS Server vs RHEL, which end up about the same cost unit-wise. Very, very few enterprises run Debian or CentOS because TANSTAAFL.

      More to the point this is a Docker engine for Windows. It's designed for running Windows apps on Windows hosts. The two worlds don't mix. Yet. This kind of thing is catnip for C# devs. All they're really lacking is a modern resource manager/orchestration tier in the same vein as Kubernetes/Mesos.

      A particular highlight is for JVM devs, who can now realistically target containerised apps onto either windows or linux.

    3. ashwagandha

      Re: Relevant

      missing

  2. TVU Silver badge

    Microsoft releases Server 2016, complete with commercial Docker engine

    "Despite this relationship, the Docker Engine is not integrated into Windows Server setup, nor is it serviced via Windows Update."

    So, it's a choice then between Microsoft Server Kludge and *nix + Docker? Who are they trying to kid? (as well as being a bit late to the game)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Microsoft releases Server 2016, complete with commercial Docker engine

      If you're current,, you use PowerShell now and Docker in WS2016 is wired that way. Heck, most of the GUI crap creates and runs PS now anyway. You can even save scripts. Note: I have no intention of ever doing this, just read the directions and cookbooks to keep aware of it.

  3. Stu 18

    Have they screwed up SMB again

    Been a cliff dive since win 2008.

    Also win updates have been giving me hell on 2012.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Terminator

    Microsoft validated commercial Docker

    Has the audacity of these people no bounds. The reason the 'open source product' isn't patched, hardened or validated is that it doesn't need to be as no one in Open Source is going to come after you for revenue for using the 'open source product'. Yet another example of MICROS~1 attempting to steal mindshare and in this case confuse the market into thinking they had something to do with the creation of Docker.

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