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Huawei will be probed by a top Whitehall official after the Chinese tech giant's staff in Oxfordshire were given the job of auditing Huawei's telecoms gear for Blighty's communications networks. The review was ordered following the publication of a report by an influential committee of MPs which warned of a conflict of …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bribes?

    This sounds like the kind of arrangement that is established using bribery.

    1. Don Jefe
      Meh

      Re: Bribes?

      Bribery is illegal. Employee exchanges, visiting partner information exchanges and 'embedded' parter programs are perfectly legal though. They're even willing to foot the bill and throw in a little extra for any inconveniences and the privilege of working with such experts.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Absolutely f***ing nothing is going to be audited here. It's just a distraction to US/UK wrongdoings when it comes to snooping.

    What worth would an audit have anyway, if it's a) announced and b) carried out by the company who produced the kit in the first place.

    This is either complete nonsense or a very very poor attempt to shift the blame elsewhere.

    1. Alan Brown Silver badge

      Huawei's UK auditing unit is specifically setup to catch vulnerabilities and is done by staff who have access to (and the ability to compile) the source code. There are code vulnerabilities showing up all the time in various pieces of code (noone writes all their own stuff) and sometimes the vulnerability is in the method used by everybody, so they have their work cut out simply making sure various issues don't show up in Huawei kit.

      This is a lot more access to the internals that Cisco or Juniper give the staff of their UK operations.

      If the UK government wanted to audit this stuff for internal use they should do it in house. This whole things smacks of more red scarisms to try and take attention away from the herd of elephants int he room and the man hiding behind the curtain.

  3. earplugs

    huawei wants their money back

    Paid good money to be let off the hook, where's the rubber stamp we paid for?

  4. C. P. Cosgrove

    Not original !

    Isn't this report just a little similar to the recent Committee of Parliament being assured by GCHQ that they always adhered to the law ?

    Chris Cosgrove

  5. elaar

    Whilst the story of Huawei monitoring Huawei is rather comical, there is no security threat. The vast majority of these devices are used on private networks and any obvious data leakage would be easily detectable and if found (just once) would destroy a manufacturer's reputation for good.

    How many times has Cisco equipment been packet filtered over the years for various on-site issues? Imagine if just one packet looked odd, it would instantly bankrupt a company if made public.

    How would a Huawei router somehow have a hardcoded IP address coded into it, and somehow filter "relevant" data and then send it to that public IP without anyone noticing?

    1. Alan Brown Silver badge

      "The vast majority of these devices are used on private networks and any obvious data leakage would be easily detectable and if found (just once) would destroy a manufacturer's reputation for good."

      Which is exactly the point I made to my employers. We do monitor what goes in and out the gateway so such activity would show up pretty quickly.

  6. colin cuddehay
    Facepalm

    Go EDWARD SNOWDEN

    "report by an influential committee of MPs which warned of a conflict of interest …" They'd be experts in conflict of interest. "Anyway we can't have Chinese companies spying on British citizens" : said a government spokesperson, " that's our job, with help from the yanks " !

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge

      Re: Go EDWARD SNOWDEN

      You know, I hadn't thought of that. This is indeed a direct attack on our fair country's employment. The Chinese would probably do a better job of spying (and cheaper too). We need a 'Save our Spooks' petition. Somebody call the Daily mail.

  7. Dick Pountain
    Holmes

    Would UK be any better?

    After the Snowden revelations about NSA and GCHQ, why would anyone believe that UK-manufactures kit is any less likely to be riddled with trapdoors?

  8. 7teven 4ect
    Black Helicopters

    Some reading between the lines

    UK: "We don't trust you"

    Huawei: "We build trust centre"

    GCHQ: "we take over trust centre and use it to spy on the East. Thank you."

    It's called 'externalising costs'. Austerity.

  9. KBeee

    Working for a big utility

    our computer system went down last week, and someone jokingly said "Chinese Hackers!"

    Then someone else said "But we're owned by the Chinese, they don't need to Hack us"

    "US Hackers!"

    When essential utilities such as water, gas, electricity etc. are foreign owned, I can't really see the problem, just so long as we do as we're told

    1. Alan Brown Silver badge

      Re: Working for a big utility

      Speaking of the "chinese hackers" meme:

      ALL the attacks I see originating from chinese netspace are from networks I'm aware are thoroughly pwned by externals (something the NSA leaks made abundantly clear btw) and are identical in form to those seen from other parts of the world.

      The first rule of cracking is to cloak yourself in several false flags.

      Why would the chinese be stupid enough to launch trcaeable attacks from their own territory when even the dumbest script kiddies know to bounce through a dozen proxies first?

      The largest danger comes from (dis)organised crime groups, not from foreign governments.

  10. WereWoof

    I seem to recall from a few years back about UK selling radio equipment to the Iraqi armed forces,with bugs built in so that during the 1st action against Iraq the Allies knew EXACTLY what the Iraqis were up to and credited it with saving many lives. Everyone is guilty these days, until proven innocent.

  11. JaitcH
    FAIL

    The US push back against Huawei is simply an ...

    attempt to get people to install NSA compliant CISCO and other equipment.

    Makes it easier for GCHQ, too.

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