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Apple came out swinging at its detractors during its Worldwide Developers Conference keynote presentation in San Francisco, announcing a slew of new products including iOS 7, the next version of OS X, new MacBook Air notebooks, a "sneak peek" at the next-generation Mac Pro, and iTunes Radio - nee iRadio. "Can't innovate …

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  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hot Mac Pro?

    All that computing hardware packed into such a small volume doesn't bode well. Resting something on top of the machine could provoke a meltdown!

    1. Muscleguy
      Flame

      Re: Hot Mac Pro?

      If the heat moving capacity is as good as they claim then I can foresee a market for a clip on wire frame that allows you to cook on top of it. Just watch the pot noodles don't boil over . . .

      1. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

        Re: Hot Mac Pro?

        I was thinking of a HEPA filter attachment for allergy free computing.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Phil Schiller

    also said Gigabytes instead of Gigabits when referring to the transfer speed of Thunderbolt.

    I think he was reading from a prompter.

  4. Stephen 2

    Where's the innovation

    Some software updates, an upgrade to the macbook air and the mac pro desktop :/

  5. Bad Beaver
    Facepalm

    Mindbending

    I did not get into the details much as of yet, but even the casal observer will notice that…

    • iOS 7 "borrows" quite a bit from the other kids, including Sailfish, WebOS, Symbian …  (!)

    • if people spend MEGABUX on a Mac Pro maybe they want to be able to stick their long, hard edged thingies in it. Or cram a number of them in a rack. Or stuff the thing full of platters. Or … well, do stuff pros do.

    It's amazing how much the company lost the plot. This from a dyed in the wool Apple kid. And I don't give a damn about how they name the OS.

    1. David 138

      Re: Mindbending

      It looks like an HTC, S4 Blackberry 10 with a windows 8 simple theme. Also the lock screen is pretty much taken straight from he Nexus 7

      Wonder when they will try to "Protect Innovation"

      Also the no need to bump phone feature to share pictures is a short sighted way of trying to get around missing the NFC boat. Lets see that work in a no reception area :P

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Mindbending

        Oh good grief. If they had continued with the old design, you would have said "Apple is dead, they don't innovate, blah blah blah". Now they have a fresh coat of paint which follow Ive's design philosophy which, need I remind you, predates the designs you referenced, and you whine that "they don't innovate, blah blah blah". Why don't you crawl back under your Android rock...

        1. Sebby

          Re: Mindbending

          Well, NFC would have been nice. Apple could have standardised that, made it more attractive, made it more useful ... but missed the boat instead. :(

      2. Steve I
        Go

        Re: Mindbending

        "no reception area" - reception for what? You mean someone where the wi-fi's being jammed? You DO know how AirDrop works, right?

  6. Parax

    Power lead on the front? what are they thinking?

    At least its got a heated cup holder.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    How has no one noticed?

    The new Mac Pro is the iTrashCan... Looks just like my space-aged bin of 2006.

    Also, having Apps in the background not have access to CPU, I hope to god you can disable this. Some of us multitask when things are churning, say we're compiling and don't want office chair sword fights (c.f. XKCD)

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ios7 is just Android catchup

    Features we already have..

    http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10/ios7-vs-android-a-quick-comparison-after-the-wwdc-keynote/

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Thumb Down

      Re: ios7 is just Android catchup

      what a load honestly, please don't make me read poor journalism next time. that "reporter" has never used an iPhone nor a Windows Phone. And the whole piece reeks of pro-android subjectivity, in the worst prepubescent way.

  9. Sil

    Ugly as hell

    Sure it's not the primary purchase criteria but I find the new Mac Pro look ugly as hell.

    What do you think?

    http://poll.pollcode.com/gq33c

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ugly as hell

      it's not the primary purchase criteria

      Really? It's an Apple product - the aesthetics are supposed to be important. That's the only reason I have a Mac Pro rather than a plain old PC from someone like Dell (in my case it's a dual G5 that was decommissioned from work, but I did have the choice of that or a Hewlett Packard PC).

  10. gc73

    New phone mock up?

    Usually they demo the new OS on a mock up iPhone on screen, but that doesn't look much like any current iPhone...

  11. Sealand
    Alert

    Design for the sake of the design?

    For a while now I have suspected that with Jony Ive at the helm of development (or whatever), we'd gradually see Apple steer more and more towards design for its own sake - not for the user. The Mac Pro certainly seems to confirm my suspicion. It looks like they have tried to convert the Pro into a consumer product, which is kind of missing the point, I'd say. Unless of course they are paving the way for something else ...

    And iOS7 ... well, after skimming through the guidelines, I think it resembles the Windows Phone UI more than just a little bit, abandoning many things that I like about iOS in favor of, well, design. Perhaps when I get my fingers dirty I'll get to like it - after all, many things that seem odd in the UI guidelines are actually very well thought through with respect to usability - but right at this moment I'm confused as to which signals they are sending.

    1. MachDiamond Silver badge

      Re: Design for the sake of the design?

      I don't see it as design for the sake of design. I get the feeling that the basic design premiss is the single thermal core. With one big chuck of aluminum extrusion that all of the cpu's and gpu's clamp on to, it minimizes the number of fans down to one and simplifies air flow through the enclosure. I would have preffered something square with the power button ON THE FRONT with a couple of USB and Thunderbolt connections along side so I could plug in stuff without trying to get around back damnit.

      I am already migrating from an all-in-one configuration to having an external drive bay that I can swap drives with. I constantly need more storage as a photographer but I don't need every drive online all of the time. Lightroom lets me have a preview of my pictures and lets me know what drive they are on. If the drive isn't mounted, I can get it out and stick it in. That doesn't work with internal drives on my MacPro.

      I've always like that most Macs are sufficiently featured that as general purpose machines they don't need a stack of expansion cards installed to be useful. Applications like high-end video that benefit from dedicated hardware will probably see the manufacturers putting that hardware into USB or TB boxes rather than cards. That should keep them viable longer than the ever shifting tide of card slot standards. At this year's NAB show in Las Vegas, there were loads of announcements of TB enable kit.

  12. Waspy
    Gimp

    iOSweb10WindowsGoDroid

    Apple has never borrowed anything from anyone, ever, which is why they can sue the shit of everyone. Oh, but wait, what's this? iOS7 looks like Windows Phone, MeeGo, webOS, BB10 and even Android...nice one lads, better drop the whole lawsuit schtick then

  13. Tony Paulazzo

    iOS7

    a raft of improvements to such elements as multitasking, the Safari mobile browser, and Siri. Still no ability to change the default browser, no resizable widgets and still flat textureless boring icons.

    "We just completely ran out of green felt," and idea's.

    Siri gets an upgrade I actually like Siri, seems to understand me better that GNow.

    Still no intelligent password control (if connected to known wifi turn off password). One positive - the makeover looks like a nice implementation of MS' TIFKAM.

    Take the text away from the icons then say what each app does, only about 50% are obvious, and the itunes / music player are almost the same.

  14. corestore

    What they SHOULD have said...

    Actually, you know what I think one of the problems is?

    Dishonesty.

    If Apple had said 'We've made a business decision to kill the Mac Pro; we're withdrawing from that marketplace. But, we have this insanely cool new box which we're calling Mac Power; we feel many Mac Pro fans will love it' - well, that would have gone down a lot better.

    1. Jonathan 29

      Re: What they SHOULD have said...

      Unlike Microsoft I do believe they know what they are doing. Clearly they have given this to the B team to design and manufacture and are just as likely to redesign next year as scrap altogether. I would like to know why though. Although a small market it does hold some prestige.

  15. spidercrab
    Alert

    Bing! What are they thinking? I understand the whole let's sever all ties with Google stuff. Google is the best search provider by anyone's standards and Apple choose to use Bing just so they don't use Google.

    As a committed Apple user, this is one more example of the inter company rivalry that is spoiling the customer experience. Steve Jobs would not have done this.

    1. Chet Mannly

      "inter company rivalry that is spoiling the customer experience. Steve Jobs would not have done this."

      *cough* adobe flash *cough*

      :-)

  16. exexpat
    FAIL

    Macbook air screen has stayed at 2010 spec i see. I'm on a nearly 2yo asus ultrabook with a better screen spec (1600x900). No upgrade from me until they upgrade the screen.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Named by surfresort?

    Surfing is trendy like free sex, drugs and rock 'n roll. Back to the year of 69? Doh. Come on Tim Cook!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Named by surfresort?

      Mavericks is hardly a 'surfresort'. Search on Youtube. It is one hell of a motherfucker of a break.

  18. bag o' spanners
    Devil

    Designed and assembled in California, but the components are all from Asia. Wave that flag, Mr Timmy.

  19. Matthew 17

    Great spec

    Not sure about the form factor, will make racking it interesting with the bottom-top cooling, those FirePro cards are likely to push the machine beyond my reach, they're $4000 a piece retail! Mega throughput.

    Very sexy spec, looks wonderful too, not going to want to hide it on the floor.

    I've been holding out for a new Pro for ages, will hopefully be able to finance one of these when they hit, my current machine just doesn't have the horsepower I need any more.

  20. Purlieu

    Party like

    ... it's 1985

  21. Eddie Knopfler
    Pint

    Pint sized?!?!

    Pint sized? Someone get me to the fucking pub...

    1. Parax

      Re: Pint sized?!?!

      What, they come in Pints too?!

  22. jason 7

    What % of business is the Mac Pro for Apple?

    Just wondering.

    Maybe they feel it's time to let it go.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Well....

    iOS 7 is certainly underwhelming. It's perhaps not a bad thing for usability to be a bastard son of Windows Phone and Android, but it must be mightily embarrassing to Apple, and ultimately it goes just that little bit further towards undermining the Apple Advantage.

    The OSX naming strategy? I guess it's all part of saying "we're still that fun little company founded by Steve Jobs" - time will tell if that works.

    The Mac Pro - well if it were a consumer-level product, it would be perfect, but I don't see it filling the Pro niche at all for all the reasons people have already given. As someone who does still need FireWire (for my film scanner) and a LOT of storage, this is utterly useless, even though I really like the look of it.

    Whilst it would be absurdly overdramatic to say these announcements are the death knell of Apple, they certainly don't look like the actions of a company in the rudest of health.

    1. Steve I
      Go

      Re: Well....

      "As someone who does still need FireWire (for my film scanner) and a LOT of storage" - $30 for the TB<->FW adapter and a pro external RAID array?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Well....

        "$30 for the TB<->FW adapter and a pro external RAID array?" - Blimey, that's a cheap raid array! ;)

        You're right, except I don't really want external adaptors and unnecessarily externalised primary storage. What's outside is backup or network storage and remote from my workstation - works for space etc.

        1. Steve I

          Re: Well....

          But if you don't need huge amount of external storage & silly amounts of CPU, perhaps a high-end iMac is more suitable?

  24. Colin Ritchie
    Windows

    Mac Pro Mini

    So glad I Hackintoshed back in January, adios amoebas!

  25. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Dejected

    I went in expecting an orgy and came away limp and all underwhelmed. Has anyone heard of the word?

    The only company that still thinks less is more!

    And fanbois WILL pay.

    WTF, all that secrecy, drama , hype, rumour mills, gasps, fanbois holding their breath etc etc.

  26. Fuzzy Duck
    Meh

    hey apple..

    thanks for bringing those great android features to ios, and making them a bit prettier...

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The iSheeple are out in force! defending the undefendable.

    Maybe, just maybe they are waking up from their Apple induced coma and recognising there are better alternatives.

    1. Sealand
      Holmes

      Yup, you nailed it!

      Now I just need to figure out how to get out of my Miele-indiced coma and get a new washer ... and life will be sweet.

  28. Silverburn

    Internal vs External

    Personally, I don't see the problem with this.

    If I'm gonna spunk many thousands on fast, massive storage etc for 4K processing - possibly a number of times more expensive than the Mac itself - I want it to be transportable away from Apple if I choose to do so. If the external connectivity cable/controller is as fast as an internal one, going external shouldn't be a problem, gives more flexibility, and it makes the array portable.

    The only advantage of going internal would be access to the PCIe bus for storage, but the costs of scaling this sort of capacity would be prohibitive for 4K, so you'll look to localised editing anyway, but the raw stored on an array.

    The only wrinkle is the video cards. Red Rocket is indeed out, but we'll just have to see how well the Fire Pro's do. I notice the brief wording doesn't highlight whether realtime 4K playback is possible. If it is, then the *new" 4K editors won't need to fork out on a RED. RED might even introduce a new breakout box if it can't do full playback. But by far the biggest issue is the non-standard video card form factor. Of all the new "lock in" technologies in the new Pro, this is the worst. Shame on you apple...

    1. LPF
      Paris Hilton

      Re: Internal vs External

      The thunderbolts ports mean that you can connect the pro to external NAS enclosures as you say anyone spending that amount of money on the pro machine is not going to skimp on storage. Plus a PCIe enclousure will allow you to use all the old cards that you may require. and I'm willing to bet big money that if enough pros are sold that the manufactures will build cards to fit the new format.Remember this cards sell for big bucks, not some £30 barely faster than integrated rubbish.

      quite frankly the new design made me moist downstairs !

      Paris becuase she also likes a bit thick black tube

  29. Craig Cruden

    Expandable and a worthy replacement

    Oh my god - things have changed - the sky has fallen in....

    Lets compare my current Mac Pro (early 2008) with the current. I have a Mac Pro with all the slots and drive bays full.

    2 ATI 5770 Graphics controllers take up all but one slot - and connects 4 monitors.

    1 eSATA controller hooks up external HD drives.

    (total of 5 cables).

    New Mac Pro I will have the same configuration with 5 cables (no more cables unless I extend it further)

    - 4 monitors hooked up through HDMI and Thunderbolt cables

    - 1 external hard drive enclosure using a Thunderbolt cable.

    While my current Mac Pro is maxed out, I could add another 31 more devices to the new Mac Pro. People arguing about loosing a slower internal bus for a faster external one.... are probably the same people that complained about the loss of their floppy drive, parallel port and serial port. Why are people arguing that they want to be more limited by the existing configuration?

  30. Spoonsinger
    Unhappy

    iOS7, Wow!!!!!...

    But not in a respectful sense, and not really aimed at the new design, because that's all it is. Underlying functionality is exactly the same, (vertical cover flow thing really doesn't count). In fact there is no actual reason why the setup couldn't keep the old look and have the new look. Then have a switch to allow people to choose how it looks - or gods forbid, allow them to mix and match or add their own style.

    But in the bigger picture it does give the 'commentators' something to chew the fat over on their various 'new media' sites. Thus providing revenue from adverts, and thus allowing them to feed their 'wealth' back into society. Yeh! for the current economy of gossip, scare mongering and general ill informed criticism.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    OS X Maverick?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Fail!

  32. Steve Evans

    "Apple came out swinging"

    If that's how you swing, you'd get beaten up by a blind-folded, one-armed eight year old.

    <mental image>The Family guy British episode fight with the chicken/pheasant</mental image>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSr4-q6VLeY

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