As soon as he turns 18 I would like to buy him a pint. Seaworld is a despicable slave centre.
Plymouth 'animal rights' teen admits Florida SeaWorld cyber attack
A British teenager has admitted taking part in cyber-attacks against Florida's SeaWorld theme park and Devon and Cornwall Police. However, the 16 year-old from Plymouth, Devon – who can’t be named for legal reasons – denied sending threatening messages to airlines. During a hearing at Plymouth’s youth court the youngster …
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 16:42 GMT Anonymous Coward
Not much different?
Definitively quite different from something you need to physically do, with others, with at least some organization, with a purpose.
Now one yoof decides do DDoS an organization he doesn't like because DDoSing is relatively simple to do (again, very different from getting out of his basement and joining a protest). And you call that "civil disobedience". Next, other yoofs would decide to DDoS whatever organization, institute, university, church, club, etc. because he didn't agree with their policies or views or hours or they didn't play his favorite song or they asked him for ID to buy a beer.
As one who participated in peaceful street protests, I'd say it is quite different, and not a bit better.
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 11:58 GMT not.known@this.address
"Seaworld is a despicable slave centre."
And you base this on what exactly? Have you ever been there and seen how it compares to other zoos and research establishments? Of course, *everybody* knows animals are so much better off having to fight for survival in the wild, aren't they?
Never mind waiting until he turns 18 to buy him a pint, how about we send him out to the middle of the ocean to see how whales and dolphins survive in the real world.
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 12:19 GMT localzuk
Last I checked, the average life span of an orca is 30 to 50 years in the wild, with older animals having been observed also. The average age an orca dies at Seaworld is 13.
So, yes, the animals have a better life in the wild.
Think of it this way. Would you like to spend your entire life living in an under-stairs cupboard? That's about the scale of the living space captive dolphins and orcas have when compared to the massive oceans they live in in the wild. Would you want to live in there on your own too? No other humans to interact with?
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 13:18 GMT ukgnome
@not.known@this.address
You are mistaking entertaining hairless apes as research.
But since you ask, I visited Seaworld two years ago and it made me want to throw up. I already knew before I visited that I would detest it. But I needed to witness how fucking horrific it was just so that my opinion was validated.
You cannot compare such an awful place with reputable centres with breeding programs and return to the wild programmes.
And I am sure the young chap would love to join a research vessel or have a stint on a Sea Sheppard vessel. Lord knows I would jump at the chance
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 15:18 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: @ukgnome
So you went in completely open minded and gave an objective opinion then?
I know you're referring to confirmation bias, but I still think it's commendable that he at least bothered to verify instead of being an armchair activist who has never been close to the topic of derision (I know, that's sooo unfashionable). I haven't been the US for years, and given the current situation it's unlikely I'll ever go again, so I would have no option but to base an opinion on reports which may have their own bias (I've seen some documentaries that were not exactly positive either) - he went in.
I hope he managed that without paying for it, though..
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 14:05 GMT wolfetone
"And you base this on what exactly? Have you ever been there and seen how it compares to other zoos and research establishments? Of course, *everybody* knows animals are so much better off having to fight for survival in the wild, aren't they?
Never mind waiting until he turns 18 to buy him a pint, how about we send him out to the middle of the ocean to see how whales and dolphins survive in the real world."
Let me put you in a cage for a year and see how you feel about zoos then yeah?
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 14:45 GMT Anonymous Coward
Two "wrongs" don't make a right. This teenager can/could be labelled as a terrorist - terrorism = the unofficial or unauthorised use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. If anyone accuses me of posting propaganda then I can eaisly accuse my accuser of posting propagnada as well. This is more complicated than demanding that Seaworld should be closed down or that orcas should be released straight back into the wild.- https://seaworldcares.com/the-facts/truth-about-blackfish/ http://awesomeocean.com/2014/07/05/blackfish-full-blacklies/ https://theecotoneexchange.com/2013/11/12/another-perspective-on-sea-world-orcas-and-captive-animals-2/ https://reelrundown.com/movies/blackfish-film http://www.dawnsfoundation.org/our-mission.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36045576 http://www.killingkeiko.com/ http://awesomeocean.com/2014/10/29/3-seaworld-rescue-program-facts-activists-rather-know/ http://blackfish-lies.weebly.com/the-blackfish-lies.html http://zooreproduction.com/blog/2016/03/21/follow-the-money/ http://marineanimalwelfare.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/lies-damned-lies-and-propaganda.html https://theunlikelyconservationist.wordpress.com/2016/03/18/seaworlds-big-mistake/
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 15:16 GMT AndyS
Wow. That's a lot of links. I think. Although it's hard to tell to be honest, they're all kind of jumbled up in there. Still, it's a lot of text, so I'm sure you know what you're talking about.
You know nobody is going to go to the bother of copying and pasting any one of them, right? Also, did you know El Reg supports hyperlinks?
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Thursday 30th June 2016 07:57 GMT AndyS
>And I, for one, have never got hyperlinks to work properly on El Reg, despite playing around with HTML a little. How do you get them to work?
Seems a little esoteric. I had to edit my comment a couple of times to make it work (which was a bit ironic...)
I eventually dropped the inverted commas around the href argument of the html tag, although playing about now, it seems to work with or without inverted commas, and either single or double work.
It also seems that any abortive attempt to put html in a comment prevents the rest of the html in the comment from being parsed, and also prevents you from being able to post the comment. When you hit post, it tells you "There are some problems with your post. The post contains some invalid HTML".
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 20:35 GMT Crazy Operations Guy
Line breaks are your friend, you can insert them in a text field using that button on the right side of the keyboard labeled "return" or "enter".
Although looking at your 'links', I kinda doubt that any of them would be neutral and unbiased with names like "Blackfish lies" or "Killing Keiko"
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Wednesday 29th June 2016 20:23 GMT Crazy Operations Guy
Never understood why activists bother with DDoS attacks
I don;t think there has ever been an organization that thinks "Hmmm, someone took down our website, better shut down our whole operation!"
IN fact, from my admittedly basic knowledge of psychology, I'd think that attacking an organization would only strengthen its resolve and cause them to double-down on whatever they are doing. Such an attack would only hurt the cause this kid was fight for; specifically, now there are several employees and members of the public that would become angry at the activists and be far less likely to join their cause when they may have sympathized with them before. Plus, this gives SeaWorld the the ability to label animal-rights activists as criminals.
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Thursday 30th June 2016 12:26 GMT stu 4
pfft
Never mind that - I followed some of those things, and apparently in the wild these poor creatures risk the very real possibility of falling off the edge of the world, which as we all know is flat.
Seaworld is protecting these poor creatures from falling into the ether.
May there good work continue.