Matt, you're so funny...

"...printer bizz again, where HP makes more money in a quarter than Sun's server sales did in the whole year." Wow! You pulled out printing as your example of where HP has innovated. OK, Matt, you're right. HP has innovated on printers. You win! LOL!

"HP designed the original Itanium" First off, HP gave away their family jewels when they did that, so I would not use that as an example of where HP innovated. PA-RISC was years ahead of where Itanic came out and put HP behind the curve for years. They barely caught up and now are falling behind again. Itanic is a nightmare and will soon (measured in years) be dead and you will be forced to use a X64 chip set that will barely scale and will leave you with unrecoverable errors that require whole frame replacements to resolve.