@Bruce Ordway Who cares about java?

The predominant use of Java in the enterprise these days is running web services, middleware integration, messaging etc. These are then for the most part powering browser based interfaces.

In general the use of Java as a fat client technology hasn't been very successful (with the possible

exception of Eclipse).

So you're probably using Java powered applications a lot more than you realise.

Air/Flex is picking up the desktop applications baton and doing a better job from what I've seen so far.