actually...

"...contract out the project management and then have them chop it up and contract out the little sub projects,..." ... that's exactly what does happen within EDS, and has been so for the last couple of years. The main problem is businesses not fully understanding their own business and expecting us to redo loads of work for free! If they don't understand themselves, what chance do we stand?

We also have ISO9001 and all departments have at least CMMI Level 3, and have also adopted ITIL best practices and..... OMG, I'm defending EDS... my life is over!!!!!!

Since I work for EDS, I think I'll be an anonymous coward.... =)