far jacob

never buy a stock built pc?

buy one with vista, it works

build your own and can't get vista working? That's YOUR fault...

Not Microsofts - they are not your mum - if you are incapable of finding the correct drivers etc - go and buy a package off the shelf...

Honestly - what are you all moaning about?

Vista doesn't work on my homemade piece of crap?

IT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET IT TO WORK

Vista works on my 'off the shelf' entertainment PC

It works on all my laptops

it EVEN works on my home built games pc - did i have more trouble with it? of course i did...is that Microsofts' fault? NO it is not...!

Stop moaning about Vista and get on with it...

ha ha ha ha ha :-)

so apple customers finally turn?

the people who love apple - the people who think apple's sh*t doesn't stink - the people who laugh at the rest of the world for being bill gates "sheep" finally decide that they've been hard done by....

you bought a piece of overhyped underspec'd junk that has turned around and bitten you - you deserve everything you get...

go and buy a nokia - go and buy a htc - go and buy pretty much EVERY other phone...!!!! yet again, Apple's predisposition to believing that it can choose it's own customers mean it will never be anything other than a quirky little sidenote in the history books...

It's Dell - What do you expect?

It's Dell - What do you expect?

They advertise stuff they don't have all the time...! Advertise it, see how much interest there is - if people give us enough money then we'll bother to make them... if not, we'll delay, we'll blame the couriers, we'll blame oem manufacturers, we'll blame the weather, we'll blame ANYONE but ourselves - whatever it takes...

oh - and try and order something that they advertise!!!

i'd like that PC you advertised the other day please?

ok - which extras would you like?

none, just the spec you advertised thanks...

oh - are you sure you wouldn't like a monitor upgrade for £200? maybe a floppy drive for £60?

no - just the basic spec you advertised...thankyou...

if you order the shiny finish i can ship it tomorrow...

no, the basic spec please...

sorry - manufacturer shortages on that model - we can't sell it...

really? you do surprise me....

openoffice blows

i have tried openoffice recently - the new 2.3 version - it's not compatible with word 2003 - it makes a reasonable effort but it just isn't the same...

having said that - word is irrelevent...

excel is the industry standard...

openoffice makes a complete hash of excel documents...there is just too many existing excel documents that cannot be converted succesfully or without too much hassle involved...

trust me, i have tried.

cut them some slack

Microsoft...

The fact that windows even works at all is a miracle - let's look at the opposition...

MAC OS - yes it works but despite mac users opinions and at the risk of upsetting and causing a holy jihad here- IT DOES CRASH OCCASIONALLY which is unforgiveable from an operating system which is designed to work on a very small subset of the available hardware and it seems that everytime they change the colour of the unit they have to recompile and distribute a new operating system...!

Linux? Yes it works but getting it installed and finding drivers tests todays users beyond endurance - it is simply NOT ready...it doesn't install - sorry linux users - but it doesn't...put it on a machine 3 or 4 years old and hey presto - it works...put it on a machine off the shelf today and it won't work...and if you try to make it work - back to the command prompt you have to go - people will not do this - it's as simple as that...

Windows? As i said, the fact that it works at all is a tribute to microsofts ingenuity - any pc - any hardware - and yes i know it wouldn't be any better than linux if it wasn't for the drivers the hardware manufacturers produce - but the fact is THEY PRODUCE THEM....

Microsoft has spent a lot of time and effort in creating this monster - the result is a relatively stable operating system that does what most end-users want it to do...the software is widely available...you can make the machine do pretty much anything you want it to do...

Why would a customer buy a linux machine, or even a mac pc for that matter when the first time they want to go and buy a peripheral, the majority (or in the case of linux - EVERYTHING) simply won't work...!

It's isn't down to bundling microsoft on everything - if linux or any of the other operating systems were viable then they would write the drivers...they won't because there is nothing in it for them to do so...