Posts by Steve20 posts • joined Friday 15th February 2008 17:15 GMT
So, Opera notifies me of an update (it actually DOES this folks) and I don't implement it. This is Opera's problem? Sure, I agree "automatic" would be better.
And while we're at it, how many of the actual o/s where these browsers reside have been patched? I thought so.
SeaMonkey initiates also, but warns.
I didn't try it with IE for obvious reasons. I'll give Konqueror a shot later tonight.
And yes, Opera does tend to action things pretty quickly once revealed.
...is to operating systems what SUV's are to personal transportation.
They both work fine, and they both demand enormous resources.
the attraction of Firefox, save for it's not a Microsoft product.
Opera, Konqueror, SeaMonkey, yep, but the more I used FF, the less I liked it. Now that it's so popular it's become targeted and vulnerabilities surface regularly.
...because I don't care what software you run or what scanner you use - a really crack team can put a rootkit in place right now that's not detectable by ANY off-the-shelf stuff at the present time.
Obviously anything that impacts the performance of my computing experience, particularly when a properly configured system protects just fine, is completely unwarranted. Propoganda can come from many directions, particularly say, lobbists with financial interests in the matter.
The configuration I described previuosly worked just fine on MANY machines and for MANY years, sans exploits and sans LinkScanner.
I'm just sayin...
If you employ the use of a hosts file (mvps for eg), tighten up your o/s internet security settings (the defaults are poor), forgo the use of IE, use an add-on lightweight firewall, use Opera as your broswer, and install avast as your virus scanner, this issue is a moot point.
And most of the above is also easily accomplished using a distro like openSUSE as an alternative to windoze.
The whole thing is a no-brainer. Opera, SeaMonkey (& Konqueror) all eclipse Safari, so what's the issue? "Why'd you allow it to install in the first place on a Windows system anyway?" is the question to ask.
Installed on two laptops and three pcs - no issues during the installation and apps all appear to be working.
Scary stuff.
What information it sent back to Redmond during the process is anybody's guess.
Seems like a non-event to me.
Then I use Opera & Konqueror, both of which work flawlessly, are fast, and according to Secunia among others, are very secure. Isn't that what I, as an end-user, am looking for?
Even though SP1 actually installed without issue, it hasn't stopped my ultimate planned migration to openSUSE, which actually works on 'obsolete-by-vista-standards' hardware much faster than vista on a 'meets-vista-requirements' box. (Which will ultimately become an even faster openSUSE box).
The attraction of vista is what again?
As long as the regulatory bodies are in the pockets of the corporations, average folk don't stand a chance. Nicely done, oh yeah.
Took a bit, but went on error free, didn't break Avast a/v (wasn't supposed to anyway).
Everything else (pretty much all non-microsoft) works too, and no updates after the update.
It's all pretty much an under-whelming experience, in line with the o/s in general.
it will require at least one critical update
If you want to run this sucker then spring for the hardware, regardless of what the "minimum requirements" are. Everyone has known for years this spec is fiction for every o/s MS has ever released, just so they can flog it to some unsuspecting customer and drive up their bottom line. You wanted Vista again why? Oh yeah, sorry, for the extra stuff it can do for you.
Mark Allen nailed it - exactly!
Are you assuming majority use WEP?
That's easily had.
you could get a real o/s like openSUSE.
I'd played around with various distros of linux before, but once I got involved with vista testing it delivered the necessary boot in the rear end to motivate my migration to something else.
I do not regret it.
now it's fixed, as Opera usually does, quite quickly too. No idea what the fuss is all about, there are some good and bad browsers out there, theirs is the best if you care to learn it imho. A lot of homegrown hype about Firefox seems to get the attention, Opera was remiss initially about requiring folks pay for it. Regardless, Opera, Konqeror, SeaMonkey, all good stuff.
IE has a history of being hammered, yet people insist on using it. I guess they get what they deserve. Check Secunia for info. Plenty good browsers out there, Opera, Konqueror, the list goes on.
