Posts by Chris

I've now stopped using Chrome

The ad's ad's and more ad's just take to long to load

I'm fed up with my browser accessing multiple domains just to disaply simple page

I've now gone back to FF, which has the most to lose if Chrome/Chromium is succesful

Same old Same old

I have that problem on quite a few EA games, perhaps they're not hiring/providing enough servers

@AdBlock

I've used FF with ad block for as long as I can remember, and only use IE for windowsupdate.

Since starting using Chrome I can't believe how many ad's are on the internet, how many domains need to be accesed just to display a page

This all adds to the page load time, maybe it renders pages quicker but all this fetching bits and bobs from all over the web slows it down, especially when Flash has to start to display an ad

I prefer Chrome to FF, but the internet is better with adblockplus, so until the open source Chromium is developed and adblockplus is made available for it, I shall continue a superior web experience of FF with adblock enabled

Which is a shame cause I really like Chrome

@ Anon Coward (says it all really)

Making money from ad's isn't evil

Their intentions are,

anyone who thinks it's not a battle to wrestle control of the minority of internet users from FF, with adblockplus enabled is mistaken

Over 20% (more in Europe) of their business model is at threat from this software

The type of people who are inclined switch already have, the other 80% won't or can't

Microsoft may have business practices that aren't to everyone tastes, but they don't do it with their customer data to the same extent Google do

Thats what I mean by, Do no evil, indeed!

One problem down, more to come

Well done for updating the EULA, what about the security hole?

The first thing I noticed using Chrome wasn't it's speed or it's futuristic UI, it was how ad's many there are on the internet

How many domain's a webpage connects to just to display

How much longer pages with ad's take to load

(Yes Chrome renders pages the quickest, but by displaying ad's and consequently different parts of pages being hosted by different domains, you have to wait for multiple servers to respond)

So ignore benchmark testing of page loads or sites/reports these sites don't carry cross domain ad's, and use real sites that often carry ad's, they all take longer to load

Chrome isn't released to take market share from IE

It's been released to combat Firefox's growing market share and the popularity of the AdBlocking extensions

Google will continue to support Mozilla to avoid anti-trust interest, but as Chrome develops with more features, and more people make the switch (only the 20% of people realise they can make the switch the other 80% don't know they can or don't care)

Firefox may eventually dwindle to a few percent market share, and Google will quietly drop support, and instead support their own Chromium, and with it their ad supported Chrome

Do no evil?

Make your own mind up, but don't fall for blog hype

And they haven't mentioned the massive security hole already discovered,

Don't be conned!!!

I am a fan of this browser and have posted elsewhere about whats great about it, BUT

DON'T BE CONNED BY THE TALK OF OPEN SOURCE

Looking into this further:

I have been duped by Google into believing Chrome was Open Source, IT ISN'T

Google Chrome is built with open source code from Chromium.

Chromium is the code Google have released to the open source community with the BSD license,

Chrome built from this code has been adapted for Google commercial objectives (obviously they're not a charity)

It comes with a pretty scary EULA (End User License Agreement)

How many people who installed it read this bit of the EULA

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

Worrying?

Chrome (and Chromium) are also based on out of date version of Webkit, this out of date version has already been patched by Apple for their Safari browser

Please read http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1843

for details of the CRITICAL flaw

I am a big fan of Chrome (see my previous posts), but until this critical flaw is fixed it's unsecure to use it

And I will be using the open source Chromium alternative so I don't have to grant Google a royalty free license to use any content I upload/create/display using their Chrome browser

It's Only A Beta

This is fast, REALLY fast

The simplicity and the lack of 'chrome' is fantastic, it really is an invisible browser that just displays the web, displays it well and displays it fast

Of course we've become used to extensions, and there are a few I'm missing, tabscope for one

I can't believe people aren't going to give it a chance

I was with Firefox since 0.9, and it has progressed loads now it's up to v3.0.1

IE has also progressed loads now it's up to v7 (8 in beta) (This isn't a post for me to MS bash for the sake of it)

Opera has progressed loads now it's up to v9.5

I am running v0.2 Chrome and there is obviously plenty to do before it even gets it's v1.0 release

The built in task manager in the developer menu, the ability to turn a page into a desktop application, the fantastic UI leaving all the screen real estate to the page your viewing, and the speed!

All make it worth giving it a good try

When I was trying to get my friends to convert to FF, I told them to try it for 2 weeks and don't go back to IE untll after the 2 weeks are up and then see what you think, all of them moaned about having to do this or that for a few days, but by the end of the 2 week when they fired IE up they hated it and said they'd never use it again

If you apply my 2 week challenge to chrome, I guarantee when you use Firefox after a fortnight it will seem old, slow and cluncky in comparison

I just hope in future beta version they will develop a system to extend it

But for now it does what it says on the tin, it browses the web, and it browses it fast & well!

Only an attempt to help it's forthcoming mobile platform

The reason for Gogle doing this are the same as Apple releasing Safari to windown machines:

Both Apple & Google want to be dominant on the mobile platform, Apple with the iPhone, and Google with Android software platform. and the best way to do this is to have the best mobile browser

Now it's no good having the best mobile browser if web developers fail to take advantage of it's quirks and features, so to force developers to do this the browser needs market share, and to get market share the browser needs to be released on the windows desktop. Simple!

Another thing Google can do is to cry about Windows anti-competitive practices with Microsoft & Windows live services becoming ever more closely linked, especially with the release of IE8

What IO want to see is, does Google practice what it preaches, and will it include other search providers by default (not that I'll use them, but it will be interesting to see)

Re: Hardly a bip in my experience

BT?

Re: Better than Caprhone Warehouse By Simon Oxlade

The 2.99 tech support thing you talk about is always mentioned during the sale... by having that it probably enabled you to get a further discount off something else... You just to stupid to remember when you gewt the bill, anyway it sounds like e2save.com actually

I've brought Direct from Orange and they stuck on an unlimited off peak browsing package at a fiver a month, they never told me about that... it took months to cancel as well

Everyone one of them (networks and p4u) is in the business of sales, and like even financial institutions they pass sales-patter off as advice just to get you to sign, if your to stupid to work out whats right for you, then your not clever enough to own a phone in the first place

Re:@Could be interesting...

"Wot, like Tandy used to be?"

Which Carphone brought years ago

Corporate Culture

Best Buy wants to become big in the UK & EU

Carphone is already big in both

Both companies don't simply sell products, by the pallet full they 'Assist customers to buy from them'

There will always be people who want someone to explain to them about about the latest mobile, laptop or other wireless product, and both these companies have said they could go it alone but they think it will be better if they can do it together

Carphone in a matter of a few weeks has already built up an 8% market share of the UK laptop market, now they've joined forces with the worlds largest electronics retailer I'd be quite worried if I worked for curry's or pc world

Apparently you get the competition you deserve, DSG group now have BestBuy, and Carphone would over take BT and Virgin Media as the UK's largest broadband provider if they can get Tiscali to join TalkTalk and AOL as a Carphone company

2009 will be very interesting

The problem with TalkTalk Broadband

Is that a large percentage of its customer base are 1st time broadband users, These users obviously need more support for basic issues, like how to read your bill, or what that flashing green light meants etc...that's why the 1st line team of tech support aren't much help for people with technical problems

Most people in the UK have never heard of LLU or ADSL etc... and quite few of them can barely turn a computer on never mind set up broadband on it, and carphone have attracted a lot of these people with free broadband

I don't believe there are any more problems with TalkTalk broadband than and of the rest, they got to big to quick, and now they've got over it so should everyone else... and making Phorm 'opt-in' shows they listen to their customers