They are growing...

because they make a product that does what they say. How do you get windows to run? Run Windows on Linux, or in this case VMware. VERY GOOD SOFTWARE.

Is HyperV good enough, no, and HyperV may never be as good as VMware.

VMware ESXi has a free version for Labs and the SMB

VMware ESXi is fast and they have a free version.

VMware ESXi is simple compared to this complicated mess from MS.

VMware ESXi is fast and stable.

We have VMware in the Enterprise and are happy with it and the cost is manageable. Why switch? Why should we change? If I am happy with the iPhone why try a Windows Phone? The reason we ditch products is because they suck, MS-DOS, Win9x? This is very clear in that Windows XP still is a viable OS for many users....

U make a deal with the Devil...

you gotta pay the dues, u lost the bet and now he gets your soul!

AMD has them beat for Virtual Machines

Hyperthreading has to be turned off on those heavily packed machines running virutal servers, virtual desktops, Oracle, MS SQL, Exchange or Terminal Server.

So the Dell R815 is still king of the VM hill with 48 cores...

HP, seriously?

Well, HP is crap in my book. They bought neoware and converted from the HP thin client OS to Neoware OS, you think things would be better, NOT. Tech support is terrible, speak poor english and have all kinds of issues, like WIFI not working on the Linux versions and the wired port taking 60 seconds to get a DHCP address. So they can't even make a thin client worth a damn. We are moving to all Wyse because they can do Linux thin clients and they can make all the features work, heck they even have tech support!

Google is bad, then what is Microsoft???

I can see the reason to regulate monopolies, but Microsoft had done more damage in the last 10 years than any company will ever do in the next century.

Windows on a super? VMware ESX?

Well, Windows is dead, who cares. If it ran VMware ESX then you might have something.

Foot 2 A$$ for the Anonymous Coward

Dude, who in the hell is still thinking the future is MS and MS dev tools? Didn't you get kicked in the balls over Active X on ie 6? If not just close your eyes and put a patch on your crotch that says kick me if you hate Active X plugins on the Internet!

If you want to make money the apple platform is where it is at, iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch. Corporate America took hook, line and sinker the MS crap and look where they are at. Stuck with IE 6.

MS is about to get pushed out of center stage

When you can run your apps on VMware with NO OS Microsoft is very concerned. VMware is close to doing that for applications and server services. What do users use daily? Applications. They do not care about the OS. Windows just gets in the way, at least with a MAC computer the OS is there but is not in your face all the time with errors and dialog boxes...

Microsoft's time is over, they assumed for too long they would be the only mafia in the USA, now the russians and the chinese are doing a beat down on Microsoft.

Adobe Flash is bad but silverlight is worse

Two words:

WEB STANDARDS

Microsoft can go fly a kite, I am ready for standars so if I decide to buy an Android phone or iPhone to replace the Blackberry it should be a great internet experience, not some POS Zune phone that can get viruses!

The decade or two of MS is gone, all the high school and college kids want Macs and iPhones. Microsoft is not cool and they cannot buy cool. IBM was smart and did not try to buy cool when they were loosing the war to the PC generation. MS, not so smart.

-The Average Joe

We had some systems at other offices damaged

Our EPO server only gets updates once per day, so we were still distributing 5957, other sites were not so protected. Some admins have the EPO server getting updates every hour and distributing these to the machines every hour, useless.

With EPO if you need a new dat you manually pull it down and push a new managed update job to all your machines to get the new dat for a critical 0 day.

I agree McAfee needs to do some better testing and checksum the OS files that are NEVER rogue.

They also need an option to quarantine/copy a file, so later IT can look at the file attributes to determine who and what downloaded it. Auto deleting viruses is bad. The user downloading the virus needs to be dealt with.

Now I would like to see one of those comparisons on the TCO between Windows and Macs or Windows and Linux machines. :-)

The Average Joe

They only want the iPhone, no Mac Apps???

Where is all the goodies for the Mac fans? i.e. Hardware accelerated flash?

Oh yea, this is a windows only world, but lets bitch we cannot get our code on the iPhone.

I say flash had it's time, now move over HTML 5 is here and all browsers should support that natively. Developers can now make pages to a standard and not have to worry about what version of 3rd party plug-in is installed.

Flash sucks, it makes the fan on my macbook go nuts. The video quality compared to a windows box is not as good. You can really tell they just want to cover the most popular bases.

We have the eVGA Portal model in the lab

I believe these Dell units are the same as the eVGA portal, still a Teradici product. It appears to run Linux with the 32bit MIPS chip and does have a 3 meg compressed firmware image. It is quite fast and draws 13 watts of power.

I used the unit plugged into a Dell Optiplex 755 PC and it was as fast as using the local keyboard and mouse. These will allow corporate america to use Virtual Desktops for 64 bit 3D engineering applications. Each engineering user gets 64 gig of ram, the physical box has 128 and you have 16 simultaneous users running similar and related ProE models. via the memory ballooning and page sharing they think they have 64 gigs of ram but really are sharing ram and not using all the ram. Even if we only get 8 users that is still 8 users on a $10k server as compared to 8 users on $15k workstations.

If we need more resources with VMware VDI we just add more hosts to the cluster and the users are distributed to the most available machine.

The days of uber expensive workstations may be ending soon...

Do you really trust MS

I don't and would not use this service.

Do you need shared storage for VMware???

No, you can have shared storage and just use it when you Svmotion from local SCSI/SAS to FC/iSCSI and then you can do your work on the physical host.

I think Intel is trying to steal some market from Dell. I thought it was Dell China or Dell India that is selling something like this already. Could it be that Dell is using AMD? Oh the horror!

First we should get to the real point

Quit printing our US Currency. Who gives a rip about WIndows when they just print all the money they want...

WTH 1500 byte packets?

You have to be kidding me. What a bunch of morons.

Does anyone trust MS anymore? Trustworthy Computing...

Home users do not trust MS with their files and neither does corporate America. As soon as we can get out of ms jail we will.

Microsoft and Open Source, Joke right?

This is insane.

MS just wants to be in the press. They have 100% focus on destroying any and all competitors.

I believe this as much as I believe that Elvis lives...

Just run Solaris and ZFS

You take one dell PE905 server with 128 gig of ram and pack in two shelves of 2.5 drives and do RAID10, you have 4k in 64 gig intel SSD bare drives for cache and 4k in sata 500g drives, 10k in shelves and 12k in the dell server. That is 30k for 10TB and you can grow it for ever with ZFS.

You will just need a competent Unix/Linux guy and not a MCSE certified monkey.

Google is the ONE company...

Google is the one that can do Linux right, look at the number of servers they support in their data centers. With Windows they would need an entire army to keep the damn things running. Look at the density they have per container, over 1,000 per container.

It is possible to make a secure os, but users will have to give up the option of installing ANYTHING they want and have to have ALL apps approved, like the iPhone.

I also assume these secure computers will only work right when connected to the Internet in some way.

Are you sure this is an issue???

Thin clients connect to a server via a broker to read email and surf the internet. This would mean on the inside you have soft cushy windows machines owned by outside hackers that are on the same L2 subnet as your thin clients.

Who wants to target thin clients on the inside, there are far more mac computers to poke at that are on the internet or surfing the web and reading email with Flash, Acrobat and Java.

We use a different vendor for thin clients and we never use the software out of the box. It takes 62 seconds to image the thin client with the software we use.

Microsoft is the backer of Paystar...

I bet that MS is the backer. With billions in cash and as ruthless as MS has been over the years I have no doubt that they are trying to kick apple in the jimmy.

MS has pissed me off more this week, trying to roll out 64 bit machines for our engineers:

*) Mortals cannot un-install outlook express

*) Mortals cannot un-install MSN Messenger

*) Mortals cannot delete any default microsoft screen saver

*) Mortals cannot disk clone a Windows computer with out a unique sid

*) Any version of .NET requires version 3.5 sp1 patch at 300 megabytes

*) Mortals(non-administrative users) still cannot defrag the disk

*) Home users cannot remove ie 6, 7 or 8(corporate america is the only group that should use ie)

*) Termianl server clients do not accelerate directx or OpenGL graphics

WTH is up with 32 bit windows? Hell the last current cpu that was 32 bit only was the P-III or some of the crappy P4 variants. AMD has been making 64 bit processors since April 2003 and htey announced it in 2000. Why keep allowing the developers to make only 32 bit drivers, force them to update to 64 bit so the users have no choice. If you have enough poop to run Vista or Vista 7 you already have a 64 bit cpu.

Trust?

Don't trust a ho, never trust a ho.