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Hyundai picks Palantir to help it build automated navy ships

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Does this imply shooting at anything that the robot calculates might be a threat?

Cristoph,

Nope. Because this project is an intelligence gathering craft.

However this wouldn't be new technology anyway. 50 year-old anti-ship missiles were capable of selecting their own targets. Admittedly their selection criteria was pretty much limited to hitting the biggest radar target that their seeker could find - but nonetheless that was autonomous targetting. The Exorcet missile that hit Atlantic Conveyor in the Falkands war was aimed at either one of the carriers or one of the escorts (can't remember, it's ages since I read about it) - was decoyed by chaff and then simply aimed for the next ship it saw.

When you drop a bomb, it's specifically addressed - because gravity means it's going roughly in one direction with some bombs being able to steer a bit.

Anti-ship missiles are more, "to whom it may concern"...

Actually modern ones are rather more precise and lots of missiles now have target databases with picutures to tell them what to aim for.

Netherlands arm of KPMG fined $25M for cheating in exams

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Re: Team America

Dave@Home,

Oopsie! You're quite right. I read the bit in the article about the Netherlands branch being regulated by that coutry's regulator and as the PCAOB are different to the SEC who fined the US arm, assumed that was what the article meant.

I wonder how many other national arms of KPMG are going to get into trouble for the same thing?

I wonder if I should hand back my Water Regulations qualification? I did the study, but there was a half day of crammer training before the exam. So as we sat down we were told that certain items in the Powerpoint would be highlighted in green, because they were "important" [wink wink]. "I can't tell you what's in the exam, but I can tell you these are important points to remember."

They also hadn't changed the exam paper in the 4 years since the new regs came in, even though there were a couple of errors in it.

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Re: Team America

Santa from Exeter,

KPMG Accountants NV, the Netherlands-based arm of the global professional services firm, has been fined $25 million (€23 million, £20 million) by that nation's Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) for failing to prevent its financial auditors from cheating on exams.

They've been fined by the Dutch accounting oversight board.

The US arm of the firm was fined in the States by the SEC.

Boffins deem Google DeepMind's material discoveries rather shallow

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Re: Let us see your heterocyclic rings! :)

Perhaps this is the best way to do science? Make so many claims that people can't disprove them all without using the same computer tools you're using.

Even better if you can get them to pay to use your datacentres when doing it.

It's a bit like arguing with a conspiracy theory fan, or Russian propaganda. As soon as you've shot down one claim, as demonstrably false, they've brought up 3 others so you run out of time before they run out of arguments.

Japan may join UK/US/Australia defense-oriented AI and quantum alliance

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Re: Oz Nuclear Subs

Politicians don’t think in decades.

And yet... One of the reasons the Australian budget is so eye-watering is that it's a whole life cost. With a budget that goes to 2050 and an industrial plan that goes to 2060. Similarly in Britain and the US the submarine defence-indsutrial planning is also built in decades, not annual budgets, and both the US and UK are still paying for the mistakes they made in the 1990s by cutting too much after the Cold War - and so being forced to produce subs at a slower rate than they want to.

So you're demonstrably and provably wrong on this, admittedly common, complaint. Not that I disagree, short-term thinking is a huge problem in politics. But in terms of defence, everyone has to think longer term, because nothing complicated happens quickly. And so even the politicians are forced to plan ahead.

Of course, the opposition might change things. That's both the advantage, and disadvantage, of democracy. However, this is the opposition's own policy, and there's already been a change of government - and the new government had a review and came to the same conclusions the old one had.

So if you've a reason to think this won't happen, then I'm interested. I'm not Australian, and know nothing of the politics. But a vague soundbite isn't an argument.

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Re: Circles...

In 1941 Admiral King, Chief of Naval Operations, was also appointed Commander in Chief US Fleet. Which I believe he asked to be changed.

Because CINCUS is pronounced sink-us. So they created the new role Comminch - Commander in Chief US Fleet. I suppose CINCFLT is a tad hard to pronounce.

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Re: Circles...

thames,

Thanks for that post. I only vaguely knew about the Canadian subs issue, because of AUKUS. It seems very bizarre to veto an ally getting such a useful force of submarines and increasing NATO's capabilities in an area where NATO were really over-stretched at the time. Because of the Walker Spy Ring, as well as their own improvements, Soviet subs had vastly improved in capability during the late 70s and 80s. So 12 Canadian subs would have added about 15% to NATO's nuclear submarine force. Plus if they bought British, rather than making their own, it would make UK subs cheaper - and so might even get us to buy a couple more. In a dispute over territorial waters and EEZ, that I suspect mostly relates to fishing rights, submarines aren't exactly much of an asset anyway.

Plus, for Canada, nuclear subs that can travel under the ice make them far more capable of transiting from the Atlantic to the Pacific than diesel boats - which means an ally might have subs available against either Russia or China.

The technology transfer agreement on subs covers lots of stuff. It's Rolls Royce that have always built the UK reactors, and their design is at least partially based on the US oine. The UK already had a design, but it would have taken longer to get it into operations - so I don't know how much the UK and US designs have diverged over the years - or if the Rolls Royce one is a straight knock-off. the UK also has a veto, due to the same treaty. As US subs since Seawolf use the British designed pumpjet propulsion. Again, I don't know how much the US copied and how much they just got to look at Birtish data to make their design better.

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Re: Circles...

Bebu,

I'm prepared to be corrected if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that France bid non-nuclear conversions of a nuclear sub off their own bat - becuase the initial Austalian requirement was for a large conventional sub - and the French Scorpene class were too small. So they proposed a Frankensub, because obviously they make both, and could put the power pack of one in the other. I definitely remember an upset French government spokesman complaining that they could have offered Australia nuclear, if only they'd asked.

But the problem is that the French nuclear boats are much smaller than the US/UK ones and also use low-enriched uranium, so need refuelling every 8-10 years. Which would leave Australia completely reliant on French refuelling facilities, one would be in fuelling every year.

Whereas the US/UK subs are designed not to need fuelling, although it can be done as part of a life-extension after about 20-25 years, if you want to keep the boat running longer. But it's probably cheaper to have got your replacement program already in place and just keep churning new subs out. Major refits on subs are horrifically expensive and time-consuming.

I don't know about France joining. They're not into defence-industrial cooperation with the USA - they barely manage to keep it going with Germany. Getting Japan and Korea on board is definitely an objective though - but I don't think anyone else in the world is interested in the submarine bit. It might work for Canada, they apparently asked to join the UK nuclear sub program back in the late 70s / early 80s - but the costs are huge. The cheapest Astute (no 3 from memory) cost £1.2bn, 10 years ago - but the SSN-AUKUS is going to be 50% bigger, and have even more shiny, expensive technology in it. Plus the infrastructure to build them and maintain them. Even just buying 4 UK-built ones wouldn't get you much change from £15 billion - once you've built your shore facilities. Then there's the cost of crew and maintenance. That same money could get you 8 Type 26 ASW frigates, with 16 helicopters and 4 whole squadrons of F35s and still have change. Though the operating costs of that lot would be much higher.

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Re: Oz Nuclear Subs

Never going to happen.

Got any evidence for that? Or even an argument as to why?

I just had a quick Google, and Trump doesn't seem to have said much about his opinions on AUKUS. I found as many pieces saying he was a threat to it, as saying he would like it as a tranasctional relationship where everyone was putting stuff in. Mostly it's a win for the US, as they get to sell 3 older subs to the Aussies - subs they currently don't have the capacity to refit anyway - so those will potentially be avaible when run by an ally. Plus the Aussies and UK will buy more US systems to put on their subs, than the UK alone would have bought - and the US doesn't have to pay out anything. Other than training a bunch of Aussie techies and crew in their existing systems, for which they'll get to use them on secondment, which helps with their recruitment problems. At the end of it, there'll be 5-8 extra highly capable allied subs in the Pacific than otherwise and the US will have forward maintenance and port facilites paid for by Australia.

Plus a UK boat in the Pacific, thus pulling a European ally into the theatre the US are most worried about, and Trump has specifically complained about himself.

AUKUS is pretty much all win for the US. The potential downside is the technology-sharing, where they will probably be paying more than the UK and Australia. However none of that is formalised yet. And he can always pull out of it and keep the sub stuff going.

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Re: Superiority

vtcodger,

The Royal Navy have already deployed a test quantum navigation system. Although that's just a better version of an existing tech, inertial navaigation, rather than a quantum computer. If those can be got to work, I suspect their use will happen more in intelligence and cryptography than front-line stuff.

Machine learning is already in use though. And has been for a while. I don't buy the AI hype, there's no AI - but the military gather ridiculous amounts of sensor data and so throwing it at machine learning is garnering results already. There are theories, that I don't personally buy, that machine learning could make the oceans "transparent". With good enough data you could find submarines by tiny traces of their wake that get to the surface, or by using machines to filter their sound out of the ocean noise.

But "find the Russiain fuel depots" using this ground-radar data for the last 100 hours is possible, and already done. How much is currently the intel teams' work, and how much the computers, I don't know.

But as we gather more data, we have to find more ways to network and use it effectively, or we're giving away a potential military advantage.

Unlike you, I don't think the F35 will be the last major Western combat aircraft. Because I think we'll need humans in the loop for a long time to come. Even if they're become much more inter-dependent with their computers. I can well imagine, for example, that a computer could be taught to fly a dogfight as well as a human. In the same way that computers can now beat the best players at chess and go. Because a dogfight is like a game, in that there are certain rules of what is physically possible and so it's possible that there are simply decisions that are always better, under a given set of circumstances. So the human may in some cases be setting priorities and overall objectives for computers and observing the results. This is how modern SAM systems work, and have for quite a while, though they're programmed by people not AIs or machine-learning derived.

But the original posrt (and quote) complained about having fewer systems in order to pursue a strategy of superior weapons. But that's a strategy forced on any democracy forced to confront an aggressive dictatorship with a large population over the long term.

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thames,

The Australian boats will be built in Australia, with the reactor coming from the UK, possibly as a complete reactor compartment hull section.

The reactor and the steam turbines are all interlinked. And the boats are currently built in blocks (rings). All the articles I've seen on this suggest those sections will be delivered to Australia - for them to possibly finish fitting out and then integrate with their boat.

I tried to find a good article covering everything, but there's been so much speculation that I can't. However I did learn that the Virginia Payload Module isn't a whole block, it's a module that will have to be integrated, so that was wrong in my above post. No whole blocks (rings) from the US.

There is more flexibility in the SSN-AUKUS program, and so there may be a way to deal with the workshare issues that keeps the Aussies happy in a way that the French couldn't. Partly because I don't think the French wanted to. But Australia have hired BAe, who already build ships for them, and BAe are doing the UK build. So one thing we could do is have Australia build blocks for the UK boats - meaning that the Aussies can have 100% workshare, even while only building 75% of their own boats (numbers from back of envelope).

The AUKUS subs are just the design the UK were working on as Astute replacements, with Australia giving some input as to their requirements

I'm not sure how true this is. I suspect we might not have gone with the vertical launch tubes in the next British design, if we hadn't been signing up with the Aussies. Also the MoD have announced that the SSN-AUKUS boat is going to have a common combat system - and the Australians want US systems as it's the US they inter-operate with and that's what they have on their current fleet. In an ideal world this would mean cooperation, from what I've read the British sonar is a bit better than the Virginia's (though it's hard to tell). So this is a severe cost fo us, if we're forced to dump some rather expensive R&D we've done over decades, in order to take US systems to keep this a single class of subs. The US having a severe case of "not-invented-here" syndrome - and often being unwilling to support allies' defence-industrial base with the odd order to counter the stuff allies order from them. Also leaving us with Astute and Dreadnought on different combat systems to SSN-AUKUS. That coudl all change, there's supposed to be a bunch of common tech development and sharing bits built into AUKUS and possibly ways to avoid ITAR - which makes defence cooperation with the US a ball-ache. But none of that has got through Congress yet.

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AUJAUSUK?

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Re: Cold War Phase II

PhilipN,

I'd agtee that we're already in a new Cold War. I wouldn't really say it's by choice. We weren't in a Cold War with China before they made Xi Xinping "Paramount Leader" more-or-ess for life.

For example, mentioning nuclear submarines in the context of "defence" is a dead giveaway.

Dead giveaway of what? A nuclear submarine is still a perfectly viable defensive weapon. I just searched for the length of Australia's coastline - and the internet seems to disagree. It's somewhere between 25,000km and 35,000km. Whatever, it's very long, and a diesel-electric sub just can't cover those kinds of distances very quickly. That's before you consider that blockade can be an offensive weapon, and in order to defend against a naval blockade you need to send your forces away from your coastline in order to so. Again Australia is quite big, and quite a long way away from anywhere. Hence they decided they wanted nuclear propulsion for their new submarines.

Of course a sub can also be an offensive weapon. But then that's as true of conentional subs as it is of nuclear ones.

As will the delusion that China which is moving hell-for-leather in the same fields will sit back and do nothing.

China are already doing all of that. I'd argue the delusional people are those who aregue that if we ignore what China is already doing, then everything will be fine. We're much more likely to change what they think they can get away with by preparing to meet the threat, than to ask them nicely to please not be nasty to their neighbours. Otherwise, in ten years time, China may have invaded Taiwan and maybe had another border war with Vietnam and India and a naval conflict with the Phillipines. If the Chinese coastguard ramming their merchant and naval ships doesn't already count as some sort of low-level ongoing naval war - in which case it's been happening regularly for the last decade.

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Re: There's plenty of sand here...

Surely sticking our heads in the sand would be ignoring China right up until the point when they start a war to conquer Taiwan? At which point the global chip supply chain goes into meltdown and assuming we get into either sanctions (or worse war) with China total global supply chains also break down. Leading to a decade long depression.

Xi Xinping has publicly said that he expects the Chinese military to be ready to conquer Taiwan by 2026. Which is why they're engaged in such a vast military build-up.

The way to avoid war is probably not just asking nicely.

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Re: Superiority

If you meet the enemy with roughly equal technology, mass-on-mass - then what you get is huge casualties.

Also, if your adversary is a dictatorship, then they can get away with dedicating vast amounts of their economy, and country's manpower, to having huge forces. If you're trying to defend a democracy, you can only justify that for a certain amount of time, during an emergency, until the voters choose someone else, who tells them nice comforting things about how you can cut defence with no risk.

Therefore your best option is to develop technology to cope with the dictator's advantage - that he can shoot people if they refuse to join the army, and you can't. Of course, during the Colld War that technology was tactical nuclear weapons. Which was the only way to stop the Soviet Union conquering Germany - with modern precision tech coming in the 70s and 80s which might have been able to destroy enough tanks to make the late Cold War look sligthly more like the first Iraq war - rather than a whole bunch of nuclear blasts and then global thermonuclear war.

If you're someone like Ukraine, of course, you can't even choose to have equal mass to your enemy, because they outnumber you. At which point, superior technology and tactics are your only hope.

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At the time of writing, it appears that the boats will be made in the US and their reactors made in the UK

It’s all a bit different, and I suspect not totally decided. But the plan so far is that there’ll be some, to a lot, of commonality between the next generation British and US subs.

So they’ll share a common updated version of the Virginia payload module. Probably all built in the USA. That’s a cruise missile compartment with vertical launchers, as used on the current US Virginia class. The British launch cruise missiles from the torpedo tubes, because Astute is a bit more anti-submarine focused. Virginia is more designed to deal with the large Chinese surface fleet. I think it also allows special forces to do naughty diving things, whereas Astute has a diving shelter in the conning tower for that.

There may also be a common battle management system. The Aussies use US systems on their ships and subs, so either our joint AUKUS sub has to have 2 systems, or we all share one. The Aussies are currently making a mess of changing the type 26 ASW frigate design they’ve bought off Britain to also use US systems and because they’re adding extra missiles.

It's rumoured we may build the first Aussie boat here. But they’re setting up manufacturing in Australia, with staff already training in the UK, in our system. So the Aussies will expect to build and assemble their own, and have appointed BAe last week to do so. But with a common cruise missile compartment from the US and the reactor and propulsion, so the rear of the boat, made in the UK.

Sadly they couldn’t just have carried on making Astutes, because the reactor is no longer in production, and the replacement is physically larger, so needs a bigger hull. We’re already building the 4 Dreadnought class Trident boats, and there’ll be a lot of commonality, so as long as we don’t fall out over the design, we should be able to move smoothly into producing one every 2-3 years from 2030 onwards.

Engine cover flies from Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 during takeoff

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Re: Not Lazy at all

And this report is not lazy reporting at all; it is stating relevant facts that are known, including that neither Southwest or Boeing have provided responses, and reasonably reporting the status of the investigation. I don't see any slanting or opinion expressed in the article.

If you don't see anything, then it's because you aren't looking. Or more likely, because it's a standard journalistic trope and people are used to it. It's perfectly understandable. Boeing are in the news for all the wrong reasons, and because they've done stupid, dangerous and quite possibly criminal things. So minor incidents that wouldn't normally get reported, now make the news.

If I remember correctly it was 2 weeks after the door plug incident that the press were breathlessly reporting on the front wheel falling off a Boeing 777. And using that lovely journalistic shorthand to link two stories that aren't really linked, "this comes after the news of the Boeing door plug incident". Where what they're really doing is reporting on themselves and what they're interested in. Not on what's happened. Which is an aircraft build in the 1990s had an issue - and it's unknown whether it was a maintenance error, just the random break down of old components or whether there's an old design flaw that only shows up after 3 decades of use. Or possibly a flaw with established maintenance practises that we can improve on. Some even lazier journalists didn't even bother to note in their stories that the plane was 30 years old, and so it was certainly not related to Boeing having got sloppy in their production processes in the last couple of years.

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Re: Is it Just Me??

Charlie Clark,

We can't know - absent information from the investigation. But engine maintenance happens all the time. Such that a design flaw in how the cowling closes ought to have shown up by now. So the most likely issue on a removable part of a 9 year old aircraft not being secure properly is poor maintenance.

It's still perfectly possible that it's a design flaw. But the automatic linking to Boeing is lazy silly journalism. This isn't like the emergency door plug - which is a part the ailine won't touch until a major maintennace period when they strip the fuselage down. This is something they're going to be taking on and off all the time.

404 Day celebrates the internet's most infamous no-show

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Re: Train 404

Bing-Bong!

The train arriving at platforms 3, 4 and 9 has come in sideways.

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Re: Train 404

I'm reminded of the beginnig of 'Three Men in a Boat':

We got to Waterloo at eleven, and asked where the eleven-five started from. Of course nobody knew; nobody at Waterloo ever does know where a train is going to start from, or where a train when it does start is going to, or anything about it. The porter who took our things thought it would go from number two platform, while another porter, with whom he discussed the question, had heard a rumour that it would go from number one. The station-master, on the other hand, was convinced it would start from the local.

To put an end to the matter, we went upstairs, and asked the traffic superintendent, and he told us that he had just met a man, who said he had seen it at number three platform. We went to number three platform, but the authorities there said that they rather thought that train was the Southampton express, or else the Windsor loop. But they were sure it wasn't the Kingston train, though why they were sure it wasn't they couldn't say.

Then our porter said he thought that must be it on the high-level platform; said he thought he knew the train. So we went to the high- level platform, and saw the engine-driver, and asked him if he was going to Kingston. He said he couldn't say for certain of course, but that he rather thought he was. Anyhow, if he wasn't the 11.5 for Kingston, he said he was pretty confident he was the 9.32 for Virginia Water, or the 10 a.m. express for the Isle of Wight, or somewhere in that direction, and we should all know when we got there. We slipped half-a-crown into his hand, and begged him to be the 11.5 for Kingston.

"Nobody will ever know, on this line," we said, "what you are, or where you're going. You know the way, you slip off quietly and go to Kingston."

"Well, I don't know, gents," replied the noble fellow, "but I suppose some train's got to go to Kingston; and I'll do it. Gimme the half- crown."

Thus we got to Kingston by the London and South-Western Railway.

We learnt, afterwards, that the train we had come by was really the Exeter mail, and that they had spent hours at Waterloo, looking for it, and nobody knew what had become of it.

NASA taps trio of companies to build the next generation of lunar rover

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Brave!

Intuitive Machines have decided to put Boeing in charge of testing.

That's a courageous decision. Although I can think of other words to use...

65 years ago, America announced the names of its first astronauts

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Re: Right Stuff

The film suggests/hints it was Grissom's fault. The book, as far as I remember, is pretty clear it wasn’t.

I also remember the first time I saw the film thinking Yeager's crash was different in the book. But I read the book 20 years ago, so don’t remember the details.

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Re: Thunderbirds are go!

maybe Wally and Deke aren't quite heroic enough sounding names

Perhaps they could one-up the others by claiming that Brains was named after them...

Is it time to dig out my copy of 'The Right Stuff'?

They used a comedia dell'arte group to play the press corps - and it's absolutely manic. I guess to match the descriptions from the astronauts about what a complete media circus it was.

Either that or I should watch the Thunderbirds? Your post has already caused me to start humming the theme tune. I probably won't get it out of my head for the rest of the day...

US reckons it's about time the Moon had its own time zone

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Re: Surprised it's only just come to the fore.

JimmyPage,

There was a plan to put in lunar communication satellites as part of the Apollo program. But it didn't happen due to some combination of time and budget issues.

In the last few years we've had lunar satellites that were sent up on individual missions - but we've included them in the network to help communicate with various lunar landers. For which everything having synchronised clocks probably didn't matter all that much - seeing as quite a bit of the communication was ad hoc.

But if we're going to have the lunar gateway and maybe regular trips to the Moon - with the prospect of some kind of lunar base, or at least a few lunar installations - then I guess a small satellite comms and navigation constellation is going to start to look quite attractive. At which point it makes sense to try and get this sorted out beforehand.

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Re: Time for change

It's the US working with the EU.

sarusa,

Nope. It's the US working with the European Space Agency. Which has 22 members (the EU has 27), including the UK, Switzerland and Norway (who aren't in the EU).

Turns out AI chatbots are way more persuasive than humans

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Re: Meh

jake,

Word 2? How archaic! It's Office 365 in-browser version of Word all the way baby! Using Internet Explorer 5 - the only browser anyone could ever need.

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Re: Meh

So, emac vs. vim. Start!

They've both terrible. I use Microsoft Word.

Stability AI reportedly ran out of cash to pay its bills for rented cloudy GPUs

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Re: AI bubble or bump in the road?

To claim this technology is transforming society is to go way too far.

It might transform society if the current improvement in the tech continues. But then there might be a burst of development and then the tech stops improving like happened to AI research in the 80s and then again in the 90s. Both also hyped, although the pitch of the hype wasn't anything like now.

But most of the things you say AI might be able to do are still beyond the current models. Or are things we've already been able do do for years. The Lord of the Rings movies did loads of huge scenes with no extras - except in the close-ups - and it's pretty obvious in most cases. The military already have tech to make expensive drones more accurate. Cheap drones would need to have quite decent computing power - thus turning them into expensive drones. The RAF Spear 2 (Brimstone) and 3 can (as well as manual targetting) already be given orders to go to a particular area and fly around until they see a tank, then blow it up. With secondary orders to go for say artillery air-defence or APCs if they can't find a tank. With a set order of priorities They can also operate in groups - where they won't all engage the same target - and are in the process of being upgraded to full "swarming" ability to cooperate autonomously and on the fly - sharing sensor data and fixing target priorities. They do this using an image database of enemy weapons types (I don't know if they also have a list of friendly types they're not supposed to attack - and I also don't know how much of the new swarming capability are anything close to machine learning/"AI" and how much is algorithmically decided - although because of the hype we'll be told it's all AI (even though it's a 15 year-old program.

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Re: well some idiots got a big payday

Obviously it is "bubble shit".

However, I'd have thought that renting your computer time actually does make sense. For your initial AI start-up you need a huge amount of computer resources to train the model. Then, once trained, you need much fewer resources to run it - and you're not going to get back to needing the same size cluster to run the training until you have many regular customers. Though you might have the odd surge of demand for a few big one-off projects.

So you'd need much more start-up cash to build your big cluster - and then you'd have to over-size it, or keep spending money on growing it, plus you'd need to maintain all the skills to run the hardware. That's the sort of thing you would only want to take in-house once you'd achieved scale and a decent customer base that meant you were somewhere close to profitable.

I suspect there is money in image-generating models - because there's lots of commercial art out there being paid for all the time. And I've seen enough decent results from it, even if the people showing it off aren't letting you see the failures. At least assuming they don't all get destroyed by the problem of all the copyright material used for the training, and not paid for.

But probably not all that much money, seeing as commercial artists aren't that well paid. So taking the bubble mindset of, "the more you spend the more successful you look, the more attention you attrract, the more VCs give you cash" - is probably a recipe for financial disaster. But I suspect renting the computer time isn't the problem.

Alibaba signs to explore one-hour rocket deliveries

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Re: NORAD is going to love this - not

The advantage of an ICBM being that it doesn't even need to be all that accurate.

If the package arrives within 10 miles of your house - then you've still received it and your delivery has been successful. Have a nice day!

NASA gives IXPE observatory the Ctrl-Alt-Del treatment to make it talk sense

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Eclectic Man,

It's only a few years ago that getting 20 tonnes to low Earth orbit would cost you $100 million or more. It's probably a third of that now with SpaceX. And that's before you've done R&D on the satellite design, then built at least 2 copies and of course paid staff to operate it for 5 years. I'm guessing NASA don't use insurance, as they launch so many payloads that it's cheaper to have to replace one every so often - though they may have an internal insurance budget which each mission has to pay into.

AI hallucinates software packages and devs download them – even if potentially poisoned with malware

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Re: the names these chatbots pull out of thin air are persistent

Hmmm, that should lead you to conclude that they're not being pulled out of thin air, but are happening for a reason.

An economist wrote a piece about this, when he came across Chat-GPT inventing non-exisitent Nobel Prize winning economics papers. It even used real academic author's names - but paired two guys who'd never worked together.

The piece about it said that both authors had published a lot, but also both had common first and last names - which also appeared in a very large number of papers - and so it was possible that the LLM had picked both names at random - or that it had picked both authors as being statiscailly likely to appear in the author field of academic papers. Also the title of the invented paper was made up of words that were common.

Basically it was working as designed. It had ingested a huge database of names and authors of academic papers, and was now spiiting them out in statistically likely orders - the same way it does with sentence construction.

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iron,

The problem with the word "lie" is that it requires intent. A lie is a specific choice to say something that is both not true, and that you know is not true. If somebody mistakenly tells you something that isn't true - they've simply made an error.

So an LLM can't lie, because it doesn't have agency. It has no ability to decide, because it has no consciousness. Also, it doesn't know anything, because it's simply a bunch of statistical relationships designed to put words into plausible orders. The problem is the people that make the models, who do lie, because they know what they've made is just a statistical model, but they call it AI in order to get loads of people to give them money.

I can then understand the obvjection to the term hallucinate. Because that also implies some kind of consciousness. But I doubt there's any better term, because "made up" and imagined" also imply agency.

Could we compromise on Machine-Generated Random Bollocks? Then the academics could call it an MGRB event.

BBC exterminates AI experiments used to promote Doctor Who

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Re: Capt Kirk with sonic

You're never going to give that up, are you?

He never lets us down.

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Re: Great pics

Surely marketing blurb created by text and picture generating algorithms from IP that you own yourself is a perfectly legitimate use of the technology? It's putting a few very low level marketing copywriters out of a job, assuming it works - but I'm not sure it's much of a threat to anything.

I'm a lot more impressed by the image-generating tech than the text stuff - although I strongly suspect there's a lot of selection bias. People generate a bunch of images and only show the best ones. But nonetheless that seems technically a lot harder than summarising text.

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Re: Capt Kirk with sonic

Anon,

If I click on your Rick Astley link and it doesn't lead to William Shatner "singing" 'Never Gonna Give You Up' on the Youtubes, I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

Maybe that could be even "better" than his interpretation of 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds'?

Windows Format dialog waited decades for UI revamp that never came

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There are three reasons why you can't be allowed access to Microsoft's UI team.

1. Their UI department is almost certainly just a less than infinite number of monkeys. And people can't be allowed to find out.

2. I've known two people who worked for Microsoft and it seems that even for a large multi-national corporation the middle-management office politics is fierce. So even if you get one to let you in, another will block you.

3. Assuming their UI department are actually human, and that all decisions aren't come to by searching through the corpses at committee meetings, and deciphering their final scrawls of committee conclusions in blood on the whiteboard - then that means their UI decisions are actually coming from a human team. At which point workplace health & safety kicks in, as allowing outsiders access to that deparment is likely to result in violence.

Woz calls out US lawmakers for TikTok ban: 'I don’t like the hypocrisy'

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Re: The answer may be quite straightforward

Varoufakis is an interesting chap. But he's also a Marxist Economist, which really ought to be a contradiction in terms. He's also got a bit too much of a conspiratorial turn of mind for my tastes. To be fair, he was personally involved in the Eurocrisis, where there genuinely was an international conspiracy to bring down his government, but it didn't involve the US, but many of his fellow members of the EU.

I'd just go for the simple answer. We're in a new cold war with China, Russia and Iran. Just like the original Cold War, where China and Russia were notinally allies but actually ended up fierce rivals, they're not a unified group - and of course neither are the "Western" powers / democracies / whatever term you want to use.

You might argue that we've at least partially provoked the conflict with Iran - although it's Iran that mostly does the escalating via proxies - but I'd say Putin and Xi are the drivers of our current poor state of relations with China and Russia. Another big difference is that the Soviets and China weren't integrated into a globalised economy when the Cold War started - but China and Russia are, or in Russia's case were. A change of leadership in China might change this quite quickly, the previous few governments were growing China's power but were much less openly aggressive and seemed to be trying to fit China into a powerful place in current global system. Xi now openly talks about overthrowing that international system - which does rather seem like kicking away the ladder you're standing on. Maybe he's just not as good at hiding his intentions as previous Chinese Communist Party leadership? But it's the current globalised system that's allowed China to get a hell of a lot richer, and it's those riches that have alloed them to make this huge military build-up - and as a global exporter with huge needs to import raw materials I'm not convinced that China can keep its economy going that well at gunpoint.

Google's AI-powered search results are loaded with spammy, scammy garbage

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So much clutter

The whole first page of a Google search is now almost total crap. I'm actually fine with the adverts, they take up space, but they do have to pay the bills - and I'm not paying myself. Although it was obviously a lot better when the ads had a little yellow patch, so you could identify them at a glance. But that's always been there, and there's no point getting annoyed at facts of life.

But now the rest of the page is full of LLM-generated shit. There used to often be a link to Wikipedia at the top, which has its faults but can be helpful, but now there's a whole paragraph often badly summarised from it with a link, taking up three times the space. Then there are often a couple more random paragaphs of crap, mostly with no link to tell you where it's been summarised from. Or even if its just been invented at random...

Text you've got about ten lines of "other searches like this" - which used to occasionally be useful if you'd got a technical term wrong or your particular search wasn't working. But now they just seem to have taken your query and put it through a thesaurus, which makes me suspect that's LLM-generated as well. Then, if you're lucky, you start hitting actual links.

Also, if you do this on your phone/tablet, Google have disabled pinch to zoom on their results page. So if you've not got your reading glasses you're buggered. Although there's less likely to be any useable information their anyway.

Remember when Google used to boast about having a UI team - where any time anybody wanted to put even a one-word link onto the Google homepage they had to jusitfy it? They may as well just bring back the blink tag now, and have done with it.

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Re: AI-powered search results?

Did you mean to search for: I’m a stinker with a wanking problem? 1,158,458,789,000,000 results found

Boeing top brass stand down amid safety turbulence

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Re: Whether they will look outside the company

Boeing are too big to fail, in terms of financially, employment, and defence. They know that there's no way the US government would allow the company to collapse.

Certainly Boeing aren't in immediate danger. There's literally no alternative. There are 2 manufacturers of large passenger jets. And both have full order-books.

But the US government don't totally control this process. They can keep giving money to Boeing for military aircraft. But at a certain point that cross-subsidisation no longer helps the civilian side of the company, if they get a reputation for being dangerous.

But worse, it won't take many more scandals for global safety regulation to start to break down. If other countries stop trusting the FAA's safety certification - because Boeing keep getting away with it, then they might refuse to certify new Boeing aircraft. At which point, we're in a whole new ballgame. It'll take a lot for that to happen, but it's not just Boeing's credibility on the line, it's the FAA's and the NTSB's. If they're sacrificed further, to save Boeing, then I think things become increasingly unpredictable. China might decide to refuse to certify new Boeing aircraft, just to create political and trade mischief. Or maybe there'll be a big accident in Europe, and political pressure forces the EASA to act in some way the US don't want them to. This could spark a new outbreak of the old Boeing / Airbus trade-war, which might prop up US sales of Boeing - except if US airlines are scared they can only use them on internal flights.

I don't think this'll happen. I think Beoing will at least improve things a bit, and airlines are going to be a lot more cautious inspecting their new Boeing planes. But I'd say it's a risk now.

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Whether they will look outside the company

CEO and Chairman going simultaneously would suggest that it's time to get the kitchen sink out.

I think they would do best to look externally. Because they are absolutely desperate for credibility. Inertia can keep their customers for a bit longer. Airbus simply can't make planes fast enough to take any more of their customers. But if people keep asking, Airbus can expand still further with the promise of covering their next change of fleet. Ryanair, with an all Boeing fleet, already have their own QA inspectors embedded at Boeing factories. That's not a good look. I'm guessing they won't be the only ones. But also those guys will be reporting back to their HQs. There may come a point when they're saying things are still getting worse, not better - and airlines may feel they've no option but to start to change. They can run old fleets for longer, while they wait.

But a CEO and Chairman who stay for a year, can try to get all the troubles out into the public domain in one horrible mess of revelations now - their credibility being already destroyed. So-called "kitchen sinking". Rather than saddling their new hire with having to do all that slowly, over their first couple of years in office, thus making the bad credibility last longer. That's assuming the Boeing board recognise the gravity of the situation, even now.

The old Hemingway quote applies, a character is asked how he went bankrupt, "Two ways. Gradually and then suddenly." You can be "too big to fail" for quite a long time. Right up until the point when you're not.

Congress votes unanimously to ban brokers selling American data to enemies

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The future is Russia - if we're not careful

Since the invasion of Ukraine in 2021, I've been looking at defence and security stuff more than I used to. And it's terrifying what an internet security disaster zone Russia has become. Obviously their government have not only tolerated, but actively used, hackers as a deniable, and cheap, asset. The Russian state has good cyber-warfare tools as well, but augmetns this by groups of criminals used by both FSB and GRU.

The FSB in particular has got a very bad reputation for using links with criminals to get their official work done, but also for the FSB staff to personally enrich themselves. Both because they can get crimials to do stuff for them, or give them money, because they're supposed to be one of the main organisations fighting organised crime. It's one of the ways Putin managed to elevate himself to power - coming from teh St Petersburg mayors office and using his old FSB connections. That's where he started using the services of one Yevgeny Prigorzin, which ended rather unhappily last year.

Obviously this has been useful to them. However it's also backfired. When the GRU poisoned the Skripals in Salisbury a few years ago (plus a policeman and very unlucky local woman) - their tradecraft had become so lazy that their agents were using sequential passport numbers. Bellingcat, and a couple of similar Russian organisations were able to trace those passport numbers to addresses, from leaked local government and phone company records. Which then allowed them to get the agents real names. If I remember correctly they also managed to link that to the guys ordering from the Moscow equivalent of Deliveroo/Just Eat - records that were also available on something like Pastebin. Which then got them a GRU office, where people had been ordering takeaways, and so cross-referencing that they got the names and credit card numbers of a bunch of other GRU agents and employees. This is just what amateurs and data journalists have done. Without much of their own data to start with.

Our intelligence services could make massively more use of that, plus the stuff they know from whatever secret sources they've got. Although that requries the ability to cross-reference all the leaked data, which means allowing the techies access to your secret stuff in order to get the full benefit. Which has security risks of its own. At first it's probably only minor help, but the more information you get, the more you can cross-refence and the more that might reveal. I get the impression that GRU in particular have been so over-active and so lazy in security that vast numbers of their operatives are now known, and so much less useful to them.

it's also interesting that Russia's intelligence agencies have had a lot of success against the West, particularly in Europe, in the last 20 years - partly because our politicians didn't want to go back to the Cold War - plus focus had been moved to islamist terrorism. But the intelligence war with Ukraine has gone pretty badly for Russia, since the full invasion. The war has flushed out a lot of their agents in Ukraine, or convinced them they hate Russia more than they liked the money or disliked their own government. And Ukraines GUR (military intelligence so equivalent of GRU) have had a lot of quite high profile successes. They're also willing to do stuff we'd never allow our intel agencies to do, but then we've not been invaded.

The exception might be the SVR - Russian foreign intelligence. Used to be the elite 1st Directorate of the KGB, the bit Putin tried to join but wasn't enough of a high-flyer - so ended up in the 2nd Directorate, who spied on their own people, and later were turned into the FSB. SVR seem to have stayed more to the shadows and don't seem to have been doing high profile operations, or making high profile mistakes. At least not from the information I'm able to find. It's always hard to know what's true, and what's journalists getting all excited and believing all the cool spy stuff as well.

Nominet to restructure, slash jobs after losing 'major deal'

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Re: I don't remember learning this in economics!

Yes. Because he's increasing prices on the bit of the business that's a monopoly.

The profits from which used to go to good causes. But then the new board came along, and gave themselves nice bonuses - and increased their prices and reduced their payments for good causes in order to enter into various business ventures - to justify their new shiny salaries.

Have any of those buinsess ventures ever made a profit? I presume at least one of them must have - but most have failed.

Brits blissfully unbothered by snail-paced mobile network speeds

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John Brown (nb),

Podcasts are brilliant. I have many GBs of them on my phone, more than I can ever listen to, and come across new interesting ones all the time. The BBC do some, which just means I can have some programs delivered to my phone to listen offline. Plus they’ve bunged all 900-odd episodes of Alistair Cooke's 'Letters from America' out there. And they’re great historical documents. He was starting to repeat himself by the 80s, but was still an acute observer.

But it’s also allowed people to do their own thing, and some have even made a career out of it. Mike Duncan started a History of Rome, rather badly. He’d hit his stride by a few episodes in and made a really good narrative history of the empire in a few years. He used that to do a great 'Revolutions' series, and has become a professional historian. The podcast funded him to move to Paris to research a book on Lafayette. He then inspired a bunch of imitators, some bad, some good, some truly amazing. David Crowther's 'the History of England' is the best I’ve come across.

There’s a lot of crap out there. And a few companies funding some weird stuff in the hope that one day vast amounts of profits might magically appear. But also some truly amazing professional quality stuff from enthusiastic amateurs. 'Missed Apex' is a great example of an F1 podcast whose analysis makes a lot of the professional media’s output look like they don’t know what they’re talking about. The TV guys all employ ex F1 drivers, who obviously do, but then dumb-down what they’ll allow them to say so much, that they might as well not have bothered.

Britain enters period of mourning as Greggs unable to process payments

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I know Greggs was a Northern thing. But it wasn’t something people talked about much.

I think it was comedians coming to TV from the stand-up circuit that made it into a thing. Which was after it had become a national chain.

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Greggs is fine. It's nothing special, but not terrible. And sometimes I really do fancy a cheap sausage roll - and a good quality one doesn't taste right. I think it's the mixture of the bland sausagemeat, the hot fat and the flaky pastry.

When I lived in Belgium there were cheap lunch places of a similar quality - and then there were some bakeries that were absolutely amazing. Belgium has excellent food - and I could go to some great bakeries and patisseries. Not to mention the chocolatiers. Yum! Did I mention all the lovely beer and chocolate?

On the other hand the supermarkets were a lot less good than British ones. With much less variation. You couldn't get nice yoghurt or decent fruit juice at all, and even foreign stuff like peanut butter was hard to get and expensive, let alone the makings of a decent curry or chinese food. Much of which I can pick up in the main supermarkets here. But they had good bread and own brand chocolates to die for. Even the cheese selection in the supermarkets was worse than the UK - although you could go to a nice fromagerie and fill your boots.

I think the author is both wrong and right:

an inexplicable national fetishization of Greggs that has, to this writer's mind, appeared from nowhere. There is nothing particularly grabbing about the bakery's food, though it is certainly in line with Britain's extremely bland palette.

It wasn't a thing until a few years ago. But I think people partly only continue it to annoy the kind of peole who get all smug and superior and bang on about how poor the food is there.

And Britain's extremely bland palette has been widening massively since the 1970s - and food here is vastly more diverse than it's ever been. With loads of artisan options easily available, as well as pretty good variety in the supermarkets - but there's still plenty of cheap bland crap out there. As there is in every country. The food culture in Britain has changed beyond all recognition in the last 30 years.

Back of the net? Google's DeepMind is coming for football tactics

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Is this going to be like the laughably crap Amazon AI introduced in Formula 1 a few years ago?

And is their metric really "a survey of experts"? Let me guess: rather than actually testing whether it works, what they've done is slapped an LLM on a bunch of football wirting from pundits - got it to spit out results based on what they write is the best idea - then asked them if what it outputs is the best idea?

On the other hand, they may have a point with corner kicks. There's an obsession in the game with fancy short corners and clever tactics that rarely work. Rather than banging it in the box at head height - everybody jumps in the air while pulling each others' shirts and random chance means you score a decent number of times - even if it is accidentally, off the strikers arse. Any goal's a goal.

Euclid space telescope needs de-icing

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Re: My first thought ...

If only they'd filled the spacecraft with rice.

Or found a volunteer to live inside the telescope and occasionally wipe it clean.

Is there a service station on the interstellar hyperspace network, where they could pop in and get some anti-freeze? As well as a really horrible space-pasty.

Filipino police free hundreds of slaves toiling in romance scam operation

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Re: Modern slavery

I like fruits,

However it is also a concerted and well-funded propaganda effort on the part of modern Russia. They've been pushing the narrative that "Russia destroyed German Nazis alone with token support from Allies".

This is certainly true. But then it's often the case that our American cousins do that as well...

Mum was at the National WWII Museum in New Orleans a few years ago. And talking to one of the staff about a D-Day exhibit and the woman said to her, "I didn't know the Brits were at D-Day too!" I guess you could argue that D-Day was one of the last bits of the war that was majority British. By the end of the battle of Normandy the US had more troops in Europe than the British. But on D-Day it was 2 British, 2 US and 1 Canadian/Briitsh beaches. My Mum had already had her house bombed (with her in the shelter in the garden), before the US or USSR had even joined the war.

Well, yes, we do take part of the blame (Ukrainian here). We were occupied ourselves during those times and did not have a say in those decisions.

I find this whole subject quite interesting - and I've thought more about it since the invasion of Ukraine.

For Britain, we had the largest empire the world has seen. By the standards of the times, it was in many cases quite enlightened and run with a lot less repression and violence than other empires. And the British Empire came with a legal system that at least sometimes upheld the rights of the local population - and for those countries that kept it was quite a good basis for their legal system when they became independent. Add in slavery on an industrial scale in the 18th Century and it's not a good history to be part of.

But it also wasn't close to the worst, in terms of what was considered moral at the time. And there was some good to counteract the bad.

But Britain's national myth is also World War II based. And it's very easy to forget the empire (and Commonwealth) - and the massive contribution they made to defeating the Nazis.

Germans have a much tougher history to deal with. And they have to deal with the fact that so many Germans were willing collaborators with what the Nazis did - which was horrifying in the morality of the times, but also that you can talk about Germany being liberated from Nazis oppression. Even though that oppression was one lot of Germans oppressing other Germans. It's also closer in time, as peoples' parents and grandparents were the ones involved.

It must be even more complex for the ex-Soviet peoples. Stalin shot and imprisoned a lot of Russians during the 1930s, as well as the famine in Ukraine and the mass forced movements of peoples like the Crimean Tartars and Chechens and other groups from the Caucasus. So the system repressed Ukraine, yet many Ukrainians joined it. And then right after conquering Germany the Soviet Union having liberated Eastern Europe chose to make an empire of it. Everyone was a victim of that system, but some collaborated. It must make things very complicated and difficult.

There certainly seem to be some in Russia who embrace the bad. Putin's lot seem to enjoy portraying themselves as both permanent victims - while at the same time glorying in how scary and bad they can be. I've always thought it might be part of some Russian sense of humour. At the time of the poisoning of Sergei Skripal with Novichok, the Russian ambassador seemed to delight in making jokes about it. I couldn't decide if this was bluster to hide his insecurity, because they'd been caught doing something awful. Or if it was a deliberate glorying in being the scary people, willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want - and using it as a way of communicating strength. Or perhaps some of both.

It's funny how people like Jellied Eel on these forums is always leaping to Russia's defence - and trying to claim most of the Russian governments' crimes are evil Western propaganda. When Putin's regime so often deny what they've done, while smiling at you - and making no effort to make their denials believeable. They want you to know they did it, and don't regret it, and will do it again, and deny it again. Putin denied the use of Russian special forces to invade Crimea in 2014, and was publicly giving those special forces troops medals just a month later. I'd guess you, as a Ukrainian, will probably understand this a lot better than I can.