@catkins..

good work there chum pointing out the other pov which I'm afraid to say is more likely to be the majority, apart from enlightened organs such as El Reg. My idiot BNP-voting Daily Mail reading father-in-law, whose company I can barely tolerate, also spotted these very same opinions not an hour ago on the basis of, "well, we're at war, the Police have every right to protect us from terrorists, you can't be too careful when you're at war!"

FFS.

oh and I note that plenty of comments giving the contrary pov include that weary phrase "As a parent" as if it gives some magic insight into international terrorism and jurisprudence denied to those who have not yet managed to fertilize an egg with some sperm. I've been a parent for 22 years, does that give me special powers?

mind you "as a mother" is even more annoying.

@Ascylto - still reading chum? I think you're Aaron Krempf in disguise!

couldn't care less..

..I'll be dead in a couple of decades, why should I give a damn about saving the sodding eskimos, they didn't do anything for me!

bah, eco nonsense, it's all a big con and an excuse to tax us.

@Ascylto..

I love you too!

I can't be that much of an idiot, I didn't spunk my wedge on a silly iPhone just cos it's looks kewl down the wine bar.

Sarah..

You can't say that I didn't hand you that one on a plate :) you can give me the fiver later, cash only, none of your dodgy Vulture-central claim-it-back-on-expenses cheques.

I did go and have a rant on HYS afterwards, some working-class children were walking past my privet hedges in an unruly manner so after whining to the local bobbies i decided to rail against society's ills on HYS as i have been banned from Radio 4.

@dave hands..

"we asked Microsoft if firefox was safe and they said "no way, firefox is not safe under any circumstances"

I noticed. chum, I just didn't say owt.

Spells?

I have a Special Charm of Seeing Another Film to hand, or better still, I may nip to the local tavern and pursue my ale quest there instead.

World of Warcraft film? the only people who would possibly be interested in this will be too busy playing World of warcraft to go! Besides, they'd need to have a bath etc which would take too much time away from playing World of Warcraft!

my brother-in-law plays this drivel obsessively in his spare time, i expect that's why his wife is divorcing him.

backwards?

going backwards? we never even got started! when I were a lad, I was promised that by the year 2000 I'd be living on the Moon, have a rocket car, and live in a space podule in some towering space city.

so where's my flying Moon car then? i don;t think that my ten year old Ford Focus does the job in that regard, nor does my pre-war semi in Staffordshire quite match the dream I was sold with my Eagle comic and Ladybird "Race into Space"

I haven't got an atomic kitchen yet either. I suspect that we wus being lied to.

and if turns up shortly?

So let's say a f*cktard senior manager fiddling about in things he should leave alone moved it, or "borrowed" to show off to his bird/mates, then the poor young lad got the blame and no-one had the balls to own up, are they going to top themselves too? Don't think so, got themselves a free IPhone haven't they?

Driven to suicide for a f*cking phone, and a sh1t one at that. What is the world coming to? I always did think that the whole iPhone thing was for tw4ts.

built on blood?

Are Apple's profit's worth the death of a young engineer? See the other Reg story for the dark side of Apple's wonderful story. Bl**dy iPhone claptrap.

nudge nudge

lawks only knows what these 21? was it? whining Mary Whitehouse* clones would make of eric idle's Breakaway adverts from the 1970s then. Hopefully have apoplexy and die.

Sid James icon? good idea but really I think that we need a Frankie Howerd* "oo-err missus" icon!

*for the benefit of colonials - Mary Whitehouse, a whinging complaining self-righteous old trout of a God-squadder who moaned about every bit of tit and bum on telly back in the day, thankfully long shuffled off this mortal coil, would probably have been elected President in the US of A for her moralistic puritanical interfering claptrap.

*my comedy hero ever since he hilariously humiliated my mum in Blackpool in 1968!

white heat?

"The UK's technology industry can pull the country out of its debt hole and make up for the decline in manufacturing."

i can remember Harold Wilson saying that in the 60s and it was rubbish then and it's rubbish now. Manufacturing success requires long-term investment from the public and private sectors and that's what we haven't had for decades. British capitalism is now based almost entirely on short-term returns and is dominated by pension funds who are intrinsically averse to long-term investment with no immediate return.

The decline in manufacturing has gone so far that it can't be reversed, there've been several generations brought up now on the dole who couldn't work if they tried, and for all this talk of building manufacturing up, the reality is plain for all to see; the Govt will spend billions to shore up failing banks and bale out their City chums but couldn't give a stuff about industry especially if it's outside f*cking London.

the worst damage was done by Thatcher, though; once she got her teeth into us we were doomed. No doubt I'll be crucified by post-Thatcher market-force afficionados who don't remember what this country was like before it was ruined, but I am old enough to remember the days of (almost) full employment, technological innovation and investment, and a fairer and more equitable society than we have now (and before kids were hoodie-wearing gangsta wannabes)

what about the turtles?

I recall that some time ago, El Reg reported that these so-called Moon landings by the 'merkins had to be fakes, because the Earth is actually surrounded by a crystal sphere that holds the air in (obviously, or it would all evaporate into space) which sits on the back of a giant space-turtle which in turn is sat atop another, bigger space turtle.

hence why NASA has been in the weather satellite and space toilet business ever since, because nasty rockets might break the glass, asphyxiating the entire world and (I quoth) "seriously upsetting the turtles"

so what are the space turtles opinions on Moon nonsense ie lunacy? (literally)

ey up me duck? wus ow thi sthun

ar dun say unny raysin fer brittis fowk fer goo pandrin tut bl**dy yanks, if thaym wuns fer spayk englis proper layk thun um shud lern fer towcrate layk usm dow, marrer.

tres bon pour them!

C'est un achievement grand du standing up pour les rights des travailleurs, nous should do trop more of that dans Angleterre and kickez our fat overpaid cochons of booses, politicians and coppers off les Cliffes du Blancs et dans le Manche.

so the connection is?

the gravy train?

when there's lots of money available for "security" projects, the threat is high or immediate or whatever they use to scare us.

when there isn't so much money available to waste on silly projects, the threat isn't quite so high.

I smell a rat and his name isn't Osama.....

so how did the Martians manage it then?

they got here in 1898, 1938, and 1953, yet no-one remembers a giant hydrogen cannon firing cylinders at us from Mars? well, apart from me and amanfrommars...

what about the fat controller?

are the top execs doing the same, pro rata? 5% for someone on 20-25K a year is quite a bit, could mean the difference between paying your mortgage or not, 5% for some fat greedy c*nt on 150-200K and the rest isn't that bad, little Jocasta will still get her pony rides.

pay goes up, not down; if you are expected to work the same or harder for less money, there's one word for that - mug. why not put some shackles on, pin some long ears and a tail and go and work on Blackpool beach?

yes I will be pressing the button marked ">>>F*CK RIGHT OFF<<<"

but nukes won't work...

..against shoggoths and Great Old Ones.

"there is life eternal within the eater of souls...."

Cthulhu ph'tag'n (akshly it's Yog-Sothoth but do you really care?)

we're doomed.

so farewell, Lord Carter..

..you weren't very good.

In fact, you were about as much use as tits on a bull.

but you got a lot of taxpayers' money for doing f*ck all.

wish i could have your job!

@Lee

you said:-

"And you sir, are a prick. A prick, sir."

any right you had to take part sensibly in this discussion was just lost there. No need for that was there. Plus you think it's ok to electrocute old ladies just because they mouth off.

You just revealed exactly what sort of person you are. I'm the sort who doesn't believe that it's right to assault old people regardless of whether one is wearing a uniform or not. That makes me a better person than you, "sir," prick comment aside, "sir." Now get back to your Guns n Ammo and Soldier of Fortune magasines and fantasize about killing defenceless people and creatures if that's what you get off on.

some people eh?

bejabers and begorrah!

the very same ting happened to me one fine noight when oi got a smack on the old head dere from yer man wit the empty bottle o' Jamesons, to be sure!

what is this "Baby Shaker?"

..and why should I care?

Team Rocket?

haven't I already seen this crazy idea tried on the kids' Pokémon show? I seem to recall that Jessie and James' sub always had something bad happen to it whenever they tried to capture Pikachu.

So no attacking Japan then.

no! really?

"senior civil servants played up an imaginary threat to national security posed by the leaks in order to encourage the police to take action."

well fancy that, who'd have heard the like? next you'll be telling us that we get lied to about the justification of going to war against small poor Muslim countries that have lots of oil.

f*cking disgusting..

jobs for the boys like everything else involved with this bl**dy Govt, the EU gravy train, and BT. Oh sorry not just jobs for the boys, that silly horse-faced tart Patricia Hewitt got a 50K non-executive directorship at BT for givingt hem the contract for the NHS spine (that doesn't work - just like her)

..and I for one...

welcome the heroic struggles of the fraternal socialist state to shatter the complacent arrogance of the imperialist powers by the inspiration of juche in all scientific and military endeavours. Three million cheers for the Dear Leader Comrade Kim Jong-Il!

@John Owens..

"Jumping back in time also explains the phrase "All this has happened and will happen again", plus our religions and those of the show, it also explains why all the dead on Earth that they found where Cylons (descended from Hera). It even hinted that Anders is the God(except he doesn't like the name) who became after flying into the sun and who constantly forces humanity to repeat and repeat etc to find perfection. For him perfection was the most important thing, not winning or losing. It also explains why the Cylon Hybrids can "network" into these thoughts/desires."

that hadn't occurred to me but I think that's very plausible in terms of the story.

milions of light years?

"in galaxies separated by millions of light years"

the comment that Adama makes about "a million light years" wasn't meant to be taken literally, he was just using the number as a hyperbolic metaphor. On the few occasions that we've been given some idea of either the location of the Fleet or of Earth, they've shown the journey as taking place in one galaxy, presumably since they got here, the Milky Way. We also know that Colonial FTL isn't supposed to be even remotely capable of intergalactic travel and that even the vastly more efficient Cylon FTL system controlled by the Hybrids isn't able to make those kind of jumps either, and that long distances such as that to get to the Resurrection Hub had to be undertaken in stages.

Shame no-one bothered to go back to the other Earth for Number 3.

I'm still not getting how, if the Earth in Daybreak 2 is our Earth 150,000 years ago, why did the other "Earth" show North America in Crossroads 2 and the star patterns be those of the Zodiac as confirmed by Felix Gaeta's navigational check?

Still it wasn't a bad ending and at least it didn't do a Galactica '80!

wot, no Colonial Fleet icon?