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@AC
"Have to pay for a US trade war, right?"
If that is the decision of the US then yes
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@Dan 55
"It does make you a gatekeeper though."
So by your reasoning whoever is first in whatever is a gatekeeper? It just doesnt make sense. People are free to choose, Apple offer this as part of buying an Apple. It is the point. It is a feature. It differentiates them from their competition in a competitive market. Complaining everyone should be dumbed down and conform to the same bland and uniform set of features, just because some people actually choose something different, doesnt make sense.
I say this as someone who avoids apple because I dont want that. But I get that it is a feature for those who freely choose it. I dont get the obsession with penalising success.
@Dan 55
"In less than the time it takes for you to spend the rest of day trying to make some kind of contrarian libertarian point, you could have summoned up a ranked table of market share by smartphone manufacturer and seen the answer for yourself."
You seem confused, you seem to care about a ranked table of market share while failing to produce one. I dont care about a ranked table and I ask the valid question of why it would matter.
You could have answered instead of your silly response to provide something only you care about that doesnt seem relevant. Wouldnt that take less time?
@Casca
"You know what happen when government dont have 100% control? Civil war. But with your history in the comments I'm not suprised you want that."
Really? You believe that? When the government has 100% control that would be closer to the USSR, N.Korea, Communist China, etc. Where the monopoly power tries to grasp control of everything.
@T-Rex Neb
"It's share of the smartphone market is even less at 24.7% (CAO 4Q23)"
Well said. It amazes me how people seem to see these companies as monopolies but fail to see the government as one. Apple controls less than 30% share of the market it fights for and the government controls almost 100% of the market it forces to take over. But a regulator must find work somewhere to justify its existence
@Roland6
"The issue wasn’t t the EU, it was Ireland deliberately deciding not to honour pre-existing undertakings it had made"
I dont disagree with that assessment. I did wonder why Apple would be the one to pay for Ireland breaking its agreement with the EU, surely Ireland should be the one punished by the EU?
@Necrohamster
"An agreement that the state would turn a blind eye to creative accounting?"
If its the same Ireland and Apple vs EU tax argument we are talking about it was agreed between Ireland and Apple and the EU disagrees the agreement is allowed.
"There's not much point having a goose that lays golden eggs if the farmer only gets a few of the golden eggs and the goose keeps the rest."
Actually thats the point of the story. The goose doesnt have a stockpile of golden eggs, it produces them. Kill the goose you get none.
"The point of joining the EU is that sovereignty is ceded"
Yes that was my point. Ireland is realising it isnt Ireland but a part of the EU which tells it how to behave.
"This isn't some kind of newsflash lol."
Yet Ireland thought the deal would be ok. They and Apple siding together in the belief Irelands government was running its country.
"Anyway, how's sovereignty working out for the UK at the moment"
Pretty good to be honest. The doomsday FUD didnt happen and the country could be doing better but then it could be doing a lot worse. And our sovereignty did save us from some of the EU issues.
"given that it enjoys a lower standard of living than its former colony to the west?"
Which do you mean? The UK has a lower standard of living than the US. We know this
@Jellied Eel
This is a terrible failure where we want to further electrify our economies and the technological demands for energy are also rising yet various countries have pursued a policy of reducing energy capability. In the battle between reality and politics it is reality that hits hardest.
@Necrohamster
"Apple owes the Irish state €13billion in taxes, but for some reason the government doesn't want to take it. That money, from just one multinational company, could pay for more than a few hospitals, schools, roads etc etc"
Isnt that the one where Ireland made an agreement with Apple and Ireland wants to honour the agreement? Also that money could possibly pay for some stuff but not the maintenance, the killing of the goose that lays the golden eggs. However Ireland is finding it is not a sovereign country and belongs to the EU.
@Triggerfish
"surely if you put everyone out of work there's going to be no one who can afford your products?"
No not really. If people want something they have to make it or someone make it. If everyone is out of work that means everything is provided for us, so no need to work. Already some people argue we are so rich we should have 4 day work weeks. Actual workload has reduced considerably and we continue to do so.
@AC
"Suggestion: Go read up on it? "Do your own research"?"
From your link the very first line-
There is no legal nor broadly accepted definition of an ‘irregular migrant’, though the term is most commonly used to refer to people who are in the UK without the legal right to be so.
So it looks like my research was right and you are still moaning but seem short of a reason. I can guess you are a troll or china bot but this is funny.
@AC
"I was very clear: Irregular migration. "Illegals" as the Gammons term them. Nice swerve. But no cigar. British border control issues are cause by the Britsh government and their apologists. No one else."
What do you mean by irregular?
Synonym(s)
illegal migration
undocumented migration
illegal immigration
unauthorised migration
clandestine migration
- https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/european-migration-network-emn/emn-asylum-and-migration-glossary/glossary/irregular-migration_en
And I dont absolve the gov as you would know if you read my post. You seem to be finger pointing but I will have to await an explanation why
@AC
"No one falls for this type of Brexit bullshit any more, do they? Post Brexit the number of people with irregular immigration status in the UK has shot through the roof. Border control failure is a British failure pre and post Brexit."
Interesting analysis but missing the point I think. Surely instead of comparing the pre/post brexit the comparison should be the pre/post freedom of movement as that is what I pointed to as the problem? The very immigration problem Labour admitted to underestimating greatly and so losing any idea of how many people are in the country and creating a huge backlog in processing.
Kudo's to labour for owning the error but how could the border force not struggle under this mistake-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/13/jack-straw-labour-mistake-poles
And this isnt a recent problem of asylum seekers-
From the first year in office, the issue had hit the Labour government like a whirlwind. In 1997 net migration had been 48,000, but it rose extremely rapidly over the next 12 months, almost trebling to 140,000 in 1998. It was never to fall below 100,000 again.
EU migration section-
The authors therefore had to use Commonwealth countries, ranging from Australia to Swaziland, to make their forecasts. Based on their calculations, the report predicted that Britain would receive between 5,000 to 13,000 net immigrants per year averaged over a ten year period from the new member states.
The reality turned out to be quite different. The Office for National Statistic (ONS) estimates that between 2004 and 2012, the net inflow of migrants from the new members was 423,000. - https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/mar/24/how-immigration-came-to-haunt-labour-inside-story
So yes our current situation is of our own British problems. Interestingly every time the gov tries to do something its hands are tied by courts when the simple concept of illegal = out shouldnt be complicated.
@airbrush
"Theres a 100k more civil servants than pre Brexit, at least 3 billion quids worth put year for people we didn't need before, that should give an indication of the the huge amount of new red tape that needs administering.."
Actually there are less civil servants than pre Brexit. It seems we have a similar number to the first quarter of 2002 based on the following source-
https://www.statista.com/statistics/966830/public-sector-civil-service-workforce-uk/
Or even this one-
https://www.civilservant.org.uk/information-numbers.html
Also I dont know how much stock you would put into this but here is red tape-
https://order-order.com/2015/03/02/comprehensive-study-finds-64-7-of-uk-law-made-in-brussels/
@AC
"Is not using economies of scale an example of a Nickel Town economy?"
Economies of scale or locked in customer without a hope? For example our economy of scale government and their glorious big projects- over budget, under-spec and late. Then they beg the same suppliers for the replacement project in hopes it goes better.
@Tron
"Card indexes, ledgers and simple offline systems. Post-Brexit there isn't enough cash to waste so much on tech that you have to keep replacing, that will never be secure and which offers an ill-fitting non-solution. It worked. It can work again."
You seem mistaken. It was the freedom of movement that killed our border control. Our regulations ballooned due to membership. And of course government spent all the money and left huge debts before brexit.
But yes simpler systems would probably work better, but the specification, rules and regulations also need to be simplified and reduced too I expect.
"What are councils doing differently to each other that can't be dealt with on a national level?
Why do 317 local authorities all have to source their stuff independently, pay for it independently, ask for changes independently, and fix bugs independently?"
I would guess so Birmingham can go bust but not take everyone else down with it. I might be wrong but at least by sourcing things separately some of them might get ripped off but others dont have to. Done nationally we get the same poor service and ripping off everywhere.
@Snake
"'genuine', acoustic instruments in pop music has become more and more a rarity"
Actually that might be a better example than the photo/painting I gave. I must admit to listening to a genre where the singer is probably less impressive than the band playing the music. Yet currently people with no musical competence can throw together sounds to complement their singing. As you point out that is less musical instrument in popular music. Even to the point where music can be churned out much quicker.
"indeed need some protection from 'ripoff' of someone creating an "AI" model that simulates their real-life creativity with no 'real' work involved in making that innovative level of creativity in the first place."
And the protections for the above would apply. There are still painters and there are still musicians. But people get far more of what they want by making it quicker and easier to produce it.
"Whilst an AI will never be able to reproduce a live concert orchestra experience, or even a live ensemble or rock concert experience, we spend the rest of our time listening to music via electronic replay."
I wanted to give special attention to this line because I agree. It is the mass produced churn which is worried about karma. What they did to bands could be about to happen to them.
@John Smith 19
"As Upton Sinclair observed "No man's ignorance is so great as a man whose livelyhood depends on his ignorance"
And I sense our poster's Kamikaze willingness to take the downvotes they richly deserve is driven by more than a refusal to concede they might be just the tinniest bit wrong."
That is an interesting analysis. So do you base your assumption of truth or fiction based on downvotes? I dont. I discuss and if I am shown to be wrong then I accept that, and where I am shown to be right or the other side has nothing but personal attacks then I dont assume them to know anything constructive.
Lets read your comment for example:
You say the truth could be either I am a troll (probably paid) or ignorant- so you assume I am wrong yet dont fit the above criteria of demonstrating I am wrong.
You say 'Kamikaze willingness to take the downvotes'- as if the truth is based on some voting system or popularity contest. That used to be the way before more scientific approaches such as disproving falsehoods. So if I am wrong go ahead.
So you speculate a possible paycheque- because you obviously dont meet the above criteria. Amusingly your supportive reply being to a trolling coward. Love the irony.
I now wonder if you will reply with anything of any useful contribution or if you might look in the mirror? Your comment could easily be assessing you, in your troll farm, trying to drum up support for a lie.
@NXM
"And, comrade, you should stop posting."
I am guessing under the regime you live it would be advisable not to post anything other than the sanctioned opinion? Because here even if the truth is unpopular you can still say it (and the truth isnt decided by XFactor votes). Also we dont typically call each other comrade.
@Elongated Muskrat
"For me, the reasoning wasn't just about economics, but, from a selfish point of view"..."they are still people, and can still be brought back into the fold of rational compassionate human beings."
I did laugh reading the start and end of your comment.
"generally about our country being part of something bigger"
You say you want the country to be part of something bigger, so you want to be part of the insular EU instead of the world. I know thats not how you thought about it but yet it is. And as you said you would trade something bigger for your selfish point of view.
"Too many fell victim to the hate speech"
True. How many wished doom on the UK if we leave? How many were disappointed that the 3 predicted recessions due to brexit didnt happen? Look at your comment as an example of such hateful ideas that because people support brexit means they must hold the views of- "nasty little insular nation on the edge of civilisation". And of course as we have seen, remainers would love to gloat how great the EU is and the UK struggling after brexit, if that actually happened.
@Elongated Muskrat
I am not sure how you did it but you managed to claim I lied and then reworded what I said. It was politically difficult for the gov to order through the EU because people were behind brexit. If we left the EU and then put ourselves back under them for vaccines the gov wouldnt have lasted long. Then with the shambles of the EU procurement effort would have been unforgivable.
@desht
"Choadmonkey speak for "I spout some brainless shite and get to tie myself in knots trying to justify it""
Amusingly I spout fact and watch the comments roll in with nothing useful to say only personal attacks. I used to get responses spouting propaganda (often fell apart as the truth came out) or excuses such as getting a better price (for an urgent life saving vaccine needed asap as we were told) but as reality sank in this is what mostly comes back.
Kinda reminds me of when we were called eurosceptics during the debate over ditching the pound for the euro. We dont get called that much anymore, probably because we were right.
@captain veg
"So far as I can tell from inspection of your post you didn't actually mention any other benefits."
I will list them then. And skipping the covid jab discussion we are already having-
> Wasnt forced to participate in the covid(Euro) bailout fund
> The UK acted much swifter in support of Ukraine.
@Dan 55
"Well they would have opted out in the same way the UK did or Hungary did."
Your simple search should have enlightened you a little. They didnt opt out at the start, when the EU cocked up so badly they were watching vaccine be manufactured in their borders to be exported, all because the EU failed to order in time.
The EU did so badly that some countries opted out afterwards as your search discovered. You may also remember Germany breaking the EU agreement of not negotiating with suppliers the EU was negotiating with. All because the EU did a poor job at it.
Lets entertain your hypothetical version. The UK remains and while every member caves to the pressure to show solidarity our government is more competent and refuses. Somehow the UK is better run than every member country and refuses the pressure to drop our own plans (like Germany did) and throw our lot in with the EU. I dont have such faith in our government but that is what it would take. So-
As happened in reality the UK orders vaccine, the EU does as it did and throws its toys out of the pram as it did. We know the EU threatened the UK and so the UK offered to share some of the production we ordered. We also know they stole vaccine to be exported to Australia and performed raids to find the mythical vaccine being exported that was destined for the EU. So inside the EU they wouldnt even need to argue with the UK, we are in the EU and for the greater good of the EU they would just take as much as they wanted and there would be nothing we could do.
Reality stumps ideology. Sorry
@Paul Crawford
"The reasoning against Brexit was about economics"
Leave too.
"And about less red tape - for all the claims of the brexiteers that red tape would be reduced, it is of course the opposite as each and every regulation the UK makes that differs from the EU means companies now have two sets of standards to comply with, not one, if they want to keep trading with a block many times that of the UK."
The consequence being increased domestic red tape even if trading internally or with anybody outside the EU too. Hell it was amusing hearing the French president visiting a village and telling them they dont need to comply with EU labelling rules. The stupidity of a guy being fined for not littering but for not having a license to take his dinner wrappers home with him.
"That is why I listed them. If you want to do a trade deal you have to reach agreement with an entity of sufficient size and benefit to make it worth doing."
Aka a country. Even selling the absolutely vital and critical vaccine to save lives was too much hassle for a manufacturer in Scotland that they decided against negotiating with the EU and just went to the countries directly instead.
"The EU was exactly that point, to have common trade and regulations so it could weigh against the USA and the likes of China that are many times the size of any other country."
That was the theory.
@DJO
"How many time do we have to tell you. The vaccine arrangements were made while the UK was still subject to all EU regulations. Brexit made absolutely no difference, we or any EU country could have done exactly what we did."
And yet at no point has a remainer managed to explain how the situation would have worked. The highly theoretical 'we or any EU country' ordering it themselves doesnt work very well but even worse is the reaction of the EU when they screwed up and would have stolen. Hence you can keep telling because you are wrong.
Brexit did make the difference for no reason other than making it politically difficult for the gov to order through the EU. Thankfully.
@TVU
"^ I agree and I am still waiting to see these most wondrous tangible benefits that we were promised."
As soon as we left the UK was reaping the benefits of covid jabs, amusingly made in countries in the EU who unfortunately had to wait at the back of the queue due to the EU commission not ordering them in time. Wasnt forced to participate in the covid(Euro) bailout fund. The UK acted much swifter in support of Ukraine.
"Indeed, I am still waiting for my free live baby unicorn and for the free crock of gold at the end of the rainbow for every household in the United Kingdom."
Remainer claims not delivered at not attributable to leavers.