But we do have maglev

Don't we?

It was invented here.

Re: Read the Patent

Yes but that's only one part of the patent - and probably the only part that's none obvious and patentable. But throwing things around the screen certainly isn't, I'm sure Ive seen games that do that over 20 years ago.

Re: Normally

Except that Apple already had their own patents via Fingerworks.

Re: Signatures ?

I seem to remember that the Apple Colour Stylewriter (neé Canon) range of printers had signatures on their inside too.

Re: More a tele-operated manipulator.

I seem to remember that the Imperial College robot mentioned above was fully hands free once it was programmed.

Re: Waiting for CS6, maybe

Yup. CS3 here too.

I really haven't seen any need to upgrade. It does everything I need it to do.

I got fed up of spending money on upgrades that brought fabulous features that I never found a use for. (Not just Adober there either.)

It's all true.

MY brother married a Chinese girl last year and she says that the sandwich & bottle of water thing is absolutely spot on because her cousin uses that petrol station.

If I knew what all that was about I might even upvote it.

But I don't.

@Seems to me the system worked fine

You do realise that if Joaquin or a lawyer from Apple were actually to read what you have posted you would probably have to stump up the 2M yourself.

You may think it's a joke but the law could well decide otherwise.

Be careful what you say online - you are not as anonymous as you think.

I ride the Central Line, the Bakerloo Line and the Victoria Line, and London Midland and London Overground. Some days I may all of them, some days none at all.

However, my stats are not anecdotal, they are facts because I count each phone I see, and have been doing for a good number of months now (as my previous comments will verify). So far I have not a had a count that puts the iPhone at less than half, it's invariably around two thirds and there has been one journey where eight out of ten phones in my field of view on a London Midland train out of Euston were iphones.

The second most common phone I see is a Blackberry.

It's not the fusebox

it's the power-factor correction stuff in the electricty meter that prevents ypour neighbours evesdropping (and vice-versa).

Foxconn

I posted this in a xcomment to another thgread. During the summer we had tea with a couple of Taiwanese girls/ One of them had just finished a Masters in electrical engineering at a London Uni.

She was looking forward to going to her dream job back in Taiwan at Foxconn.

Thank you chr0m4t1c for understanding the difference between IP and trademarks.

None of the other commenters had obviously read what I had quoted. Proview's lawyers are claiming that Apple are abusing their IP when in fact thay are abusing the trademark (yet to be proved).

For those who posted above Microspoft is not IP. It is a company name, registered as a company name. Microsoft's IP is in its products - not its name.

I do my surveys on the train

which is a far more realistic way of guaging phone acceptance and useability as people tend to get their phones out when they settle down (for whatever reason)

2 nights ago on a train out of Euston (7pm ish), in my immediate field of view were 10 people. 3 of them were using a phone and the rest were either dozing, reading The Standard or a Kindle.

Of the phones - iPhone 2, BB 1. others 0.

When the train reached my station I got up to leave and to my suprise the 6 people in the seats behind me were all using iphones (4 or 4s) for either games or email/text as were 2 more standing in the doorway. Other phones 0.

Yesterday I made 5 train journeys and 1 bus ride. and saw something like 50 phones being used. Without itemising each individual journeys I can honestly say that iphones (both 3 and 4 versions (can't tell an s version just by looking)) outnumbered every other type of phone something in the oprder of 8 or 9 to 1.

So according all the detractors above all the iphone users are sheep and idiots. That is patently not the case as they ranged though the entire gamut of normal people and ages.

In fact at one station, a middle-aged black guy in a business suite, burberry-syle mac and briefcase got on and sat down beside me. after getting comfy, he pulled out an iphone 3 and started playing backgammon. Nothing about him looked like a sheep.

I never count myself in with these numbers as that would slew the figures (on some journeys that would only be by a very small amount though).

In conclusion I would claim that it is not us iPhone users that have a problem. it is the detractors who have the problem. We made our choice and we like it. Get used to it.

Does it not occur to them that people actually like iphones

On the contrary

The Sinclair Neoteric 60 was very highly rated by HiFi News and The Gramophone at the time.

I've been trying to find one for ages but not many were made. Apparently they were very difficult to make because of their small size and that caused reliability issues with overheating.

Still. I'd have one if I could find one.

That's probably because

Nearly all of those slider things were made by the same company, Penny & Giles.

And the iPod had it

in 2007 - before the first android device had been launched.

The neonode N1m didn't use a touch sensitive screen like the iphone. it used light beams which were interrupted by a finger or stylus.

If I remember correctly - wasn't that how a lot of 'touch-screens' worked in the early days?

And who would be the loser?

According to a couple of things I've read recently, Apple spends almost $8bn a year with Samsung.

I'm sure there are other manufacturers who would jump at getting a slice of that.

A complete twat

Is someone who claims that Apple's marketing is vile - while ignoring go compare - which truely is vile.

Just to enlighten me. why is Apple' marketing smug and vile?

Surely all marketing is smug and vile,

Where do you get this 'overpay for your airtime contract'?

I'm paying half what I paid when I had my Nokia.

(And I think that 99p is quite reasonable for an app.)

(And most of the providers in the UK will GIVE you an iPhone (if you take the appropraite tarif))

And you clearly

haven't seen my binmen.

They wear hi-vis tabards with no metal straps or buckles that swing (if they had those they would be a H&S hazard in their own right).

The driver never leaves his seat - therefore does not wear any gloves. None of them wear hard-hats (why should they? the sky isn't likely to fall on their heads) and the majority (there's only 2 bin-men per truck (plus the diver)) appear to wear trainers or 'normal-looking' footware (possibly the safety sort) though).

I can't say I've noticed that they wear heavy riggers gloves, and in any case they don't apear to press anything while doing my street. They just move the bins to the back of the truck and the automation does the rest.

Thinking about your post, your LA must have tried really hard if they bought dustcarts with controls that couldn't be operated with gloves. Ours have levers with knobs the size of golf-balls and push-button emergency things the size of tennis balls.