On the other hand
There is also an experimental Qt port for Android...
If Google have any sense, they'll support Qt on Android officially. That way they have a hedge against the Java lawsuits.
Nokia will adopt Windows Mobile as its main smartphone platform in a wide-ranging agreement with Microsoft. But it's not as wide-ranging as it might have been: the two giants won't formalise the relationship by forming a joint venture or spin-out, and there's no mention of exclusivity on any of the many areas touched on by the …
I hadn't realised that Elop was a former MS man; that rather rendered earlier speculation moot; if he had left under a cloud they would have gone with Android, otherwise it would be WM7.
I wonder if this is a new MS strategy to take over the world, by getting ex-MS (but friendly) people into senior positions in other companies.
I also wonder if the current crop of flagship models will get WM7 instead of Symbian^4 or if Nokia will take their usual route of pretending they never made them and just stopping all updates.
Here's a clue Nokia: One of the reasons that knowledgeable users are switching to Android and iOS is because they can be sure that there will be newer version of the OS and there's a reasonable chance they will be able to put it on their phone if it's less than two years old. That kind of thing leads to recommendations to others
After years of making all the wrong decisions with Symbian (S80 was good for it's time so of course they only ever used it on one 'phone) they're now moving to Windows. Are they insane?
Of course they've got history, almost all their 'phones require proprietary Windows based software to sync, backup and update. Said Windows software was far worse than their 'phone software which bodes reeeaaaalllly well.
Also, Orlowski comment! Woooo! (Normally such remarks get a good moderating but it's Friday, I'm in the mood!)
To be the lone contrarian here, let me predict SUCCESS!
They just have to create the 30$ Winphone with bells and whistles to show the world that there are cheap, powerful alternatives to the fancy Apple and Andorid offerings. Ooh, and those phones should appear within the year.
Let's see that multibillion-dollar war-chest again, and let's see it committed to a brighter world with lots of windows!
Sarah. While I don't disagree with your statement, your reaction seems a bit extreme.
I know that you never claim to be without any bias, but you normally leave it to us to be quite so loud. Does this post infringe house rules 7 or 9? I would hate to see the moderator banned from the forum!
Ah. Maybe you left the screen lock off when you went for coffee or something, and it was not Sarah who wrote this!
I like to think that the moderator team enjoy us playing word games with them sometimes. I really was trying to be humorous myself, but maybe I was too subtle for some people.
If I manage to elicit a direct response from one of them once in a blue moon, then that makes all the comments I write worthwhile.
...to the fancy Apple and Android offerings already exist. Some of the best run Android, mind, but they're not expensive. The Orange San Francisco, for example, is extremely capable, costs under a ton and can be unlocked for free.
Okay, it's not $30, but it does have the distinct advantage of actually existing...
Rather unfashionable for the Reg it seems but WP7 is a fantastic OS. Whilst upgrading my HD2 from the POS that is WP6.5 to Android has been great for me it still feels old, clunky and fugly compared to my WP7 Optimus.
Looking forward to some nice hardware from Nokia and glad that increased visibility will help even more apps appear on the platform.
Also really pleased that the usual MS haters are so put out, fantastic.
I can confidently predict most people here haven't even tried the ting... I've got a Samsung Omnia 7, Galaxy S and I've been trialling an N8 recently.
Windows phone 7 dumps on android & nokia from some considerable altitude.
I lost my WP7 last weekend and during the wait to get a replacement using the galaxy S was probably less fun than having my eyes sucked out with a Dyson. MS are off to a steady rather than spectacular start but once this thing gains traction, I predict it's going to be a juggernaut, the great unwashed will lap it up. It's a brilliant piece of kit and I love it (v1.0 too)!! I also love the fact that no-one's seen one before, so you get people coming over to take a look like they did when no-one had an iPhone. So it makes me feel popular ;)
It's mighty powerful Register-Commentard groupthink going on today.
I personally own a WinPhone 7, not because I'm an MS shill, but because I like it. It has faults sure, and proper sat nav will be nice but it's actually got a very nice well thought out UI.
I hardly think this is the end of Nokia or MS trying to infiltrate and extinguish them.
Not really surprised but still shocked. LIke 1st poster said this really needs two fail icons. Bye bye Nokia, you were actually a good company for a while. Why did you ever take up this snake Elop we'll never understand.
Just hope they spin off their bit from Nokia Siemens Networks, wouldn't wish to let Microsoft get into the hard core networking side too, that would put back the whole industry, and please leave your grubby hands off Qt too.
Desperation? Maybe, but the new Windows phones are very good. Personally I hope this gives them a bit of a spurt so that the market isn't 80% android in a couple of years. Apple? Well, they will trade market share for maintaining margin on products like in the late 80s, early 90s with their Mac II, SE, SE30 etc.
This is of no surprise really is it? Come on Ex M$ bod joins Nokia, what do you think he's going to do? There is only one thing he knows, people don't like change or stepping out of their comfort zone, so he takes the company in a direct he knows best.
I was so hoping that Nokia would be brave enough to do something different, step outside the box, develop something for the enlightened people of the world, but sadly this is not going to be the case. I probably makes sense to Nokia, make phones for the masses and clones out there, if I wanted to be a clone, I'd have bought an Iphone, I want freedom, expression and the right to do what I want, now there is nothing that embraces that, they say they will develop Meego, but that'll disappear soon for sure, Sad Times :'(
Images of 2 drunks propping each other up or 2 dinosaurs looking anxiously at the skies come to mind!
Nokia's problems stem from being unable to bring to market good engineering and design ideas with sufficient speed, neither of which will be significantly helped by trying to use Windows.
Micosoft's problems stem from having built a paranoid, inward-looking software empire that produces mediocre products slowly and fosters developer interest through fear rather than enthusiasm. Their prospects may be marginally improved by this announcement, but as long as they are unable to change their corporate culture ( leap off THEIR burning platform, if you will ), they will continue to be an also-ran in new makets.
I thought Meego had been too long in gestation to garner much support, but at least it was a move in sync with the general trend towards *nix based and open development models; looking backwards towards Microsoft seems poor judgement.
From a developer point of view, I want to construct my toolset around what makes most sense to me, picking and choosing what is best for my requirements. Both Symbian and Windows ( for different reasons ) make this difficult, and therefore are unattractive.
From a user point of view, I want a wide selection of different device experiences to choose from. Most people grow up with rapidly-changing technology now, and are quite able to learn any interface that is put in front of them.
From this point of view, Android has it right in that the underlying platform is a consistent ecosystem, but the interface can reflect the needs of the device it is running on, or the market the device is aimed at. Windows Mobile, on the other hand. has just returned to the Microsoft dark ages of preventing differentiation and providing a one-size-fits-nobody experience. No thanks.
Nokia probably should have chosen to go with some combination of Meego, Android and maybe even talked to Mark Shuttleworth at Canonical ( Ubuntu ) for their software needs, whilst getting their head round the challenge of resolving their design and engineering problems.
When it comes down to it though, Nokia are a big company that want control ( look at how their behaviour destroyed the promise of Symbian ) and Microsoft are a big company that want control. There will be tears before bedtime...
It couldn't be worse, IMHO.
So, probably I guess, I'll have to accept a download^Wdowngrade on my new, shiny Nokia N8 to Windows Phone. If that happens, they cane have the bloody thing back, as it's not what I signed my 2-year contract for.
I signed it for both the hardware AND the software/OS.
"• Nokia’s content and application store will be integrated with Microsoft Marketplace for a more compelling consumer experience." End of OVI. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. See no mention of the trademarked word "OVI" (door) in the Open Letter. However, I DO see "Bing", and "adCenter" - both Microsoft trademarks - in the statement. Interesting - the guys at Ovi must be crapping themselves.
One thing the statement made that I totally agree with:
"We each bring incredible assets to the table." Webster's "Incredible: too extraordinary and improbable to be believed."
I guess from Websters, one can also use "compelling" as : 'demanding attention'. That'll be Symbian, then.
Mary and Niklaus keep their jobs. This week.
Phew, what a day!!